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December 3rd, 2008, 08:15 PM
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Dismountable Cavalry?
I'm working on a project that will utilize dismountable cavalry and I am wondering if anyone else has tried to simulate this.
What I will be doing is modifying pack horses to represent cavalry mounts to use them as part of the players OOB in a campaign. Obviously you would not be able to replace these units if eliminated BUT you could repair them during the campaign.
To give some background, this will be a hypothetical incursion into northern Mexico by horse mounted US Cavalry around January 1941.
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December 3rd, 2008, 11:43 PM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
Check with Welk, he created a Napoleonic mod a year or so ago. Don't know if there were dismountables or not.
Here's a thread about it:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...t=steel+empire
cheers,
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December 6th, 2008, 08:19 AM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
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Sorry to hi-jack the thread slightly, is this mod still 'live'? All of the d/l links in the quoted thread are dead, but it sounds like this gent did some very interesting work.
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December 6th, 2008, 10:07 AM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
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Sorry to hi-jack the thread slightly, is this mod still 'live'? All of the d/l links in the quoted thread are dead, but it sounds like this gent did some very interesting work.
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No, Welk is not working on it any more. You could contact Welk directly or ressurrect the Napoleon thread by posting on it.
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December 4th, 2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
There are already dismountable cavalry in some OOB's. The German "Unbritn Kav Zug" ( formation 409 ) is an example.
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December 5th, 2008, 04:23 AM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
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There are already dismountable cavalry in some OOB's. The German "Unbritn Kav Zug" ( formation 409 ) is an example.
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I see them now. In the US OOB, they are the "Cav Transport Tm".
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December 5th, 2008, 09:35 AM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
the bad thing is that the cavalry dont disappears after you unload, so you get 2 units(but usually 1 light armed cavalry unit with low ammo loads)
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December 5th, 2008, 04:00 PM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
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the bad thing is that the cavalry dont disappears after you unload, so you get 2 units(but usually 1 light armed cavalry unit with low ammo loads)
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Actually that's perfectly logical - someone has to keep the horses It's the same situation as with Motorcycle units.
(For example during and after the American Civil War, the cavalry usually deployed dismounted, forming a skirmish line, with 1 man out of 4 (or, in extreme cases, of 5) keeping horses.
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December 5th, 2008, 09:28 PM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
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the bad thing is that the cavalry dont disappears after you unload, so you get 2 units(but usually 1 light armed cavalry unit with low ammo loads)
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Actually that's perfectly logical - someone has to keep the horses It's the same situation as with Motorcycle units.
(For example during and after the American Civil War, the cavalry usually deployed dismounted, forming a skirmish line, with 1 man out of 4 (or, in extreme cases, of 5) keeping horses.
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yeah, so both, the number of men on the transport must be low, 3 or 4 man against ~6 man on the ground maybe?
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June 23rd, 2009, 07:49 AM
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Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
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Originally Posted by Marek_Tucan
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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP
the bad thing is that the cavalry dont disappears after you unload, so you get 2 units(but usually 1 light armed cavalry unit with low ammo loads)
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Actually that's perfectly logical - someone has to keep the horses It's the same situation as with Motorcycle units.
(For example during and after the American Civil War, the cavalry usually deployed dismounted, forming a skirmish line, with 1 man out of 4 (or, in extreme cases, of 5) keeping horses.
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I consider this to be something of a good thing.
At the Battle of Brice's Crossroads, Nathan Bedford Forest employed dismounted cavarly in a defensive line against Federal infantry, and changed out his holders to counterattack and pursue the enemy forces with fresh men and horses.
I do something similar in alot of my early campaigns, with the addition of tankettes and armoured cars.
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