.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > The Camo Workshop > WinSPWW2 > After Action Reports
Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 9th, 2009, 12:27 PM

runequester runequester is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 207
Thanks: 24
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
runequester is on a distinguished road
Default Observations from my current german campaign

Just because Polish tanks die easily, doesn't mean they can't blow up Panzers just fine.

Having ammo dumps next to my artillery is awesome... until a 100mm barrage comes inbound.

The 50mm mortar may be the worst weapon in the German arsenal

Tried level bombers for the first time.. a 7 turn delay is undoubtedly realistic, but also means these weapons are hard to employ.

I need to get better at predicting enemy deployment areas

The AT rifles are spending more time submachinegunning hapless infantry stragglers than actually getting within 2-3 hexes of Polish armour. They did shoot up a few tanks but its a bonus rather than an expectation.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 9th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Mobhack's Avatar

Mobhack Mobhack is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dundee
Posts: 5,955
Thanks: 464
Thanked 1,896 Times in 1,234 Posts
Mobhack is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Observations from my current german campaign

Quote:
Originally Posted by runequester View Post
Just because Polish tanks die easily, doesn't mean they can't blow up Panzers just fine.

Having ammo dumps next to my artillery is awesome... until a 100mm barrage comes inbound.

The 50mm mortar may be the worst weapon in the German arsenal

Tried level bombers for the first time.. a 7 turn delay is undoubtedly realistic, but also means these weapons are hard to employ.

I need to get better at predicting enemy deployment areas

The AT rifles are spending more time submachinegunning hapless infantry stragglers than actually getting within 2-3 hexes of Polish armour. They did shoot up a few tanks but its a bonus rather than an expectation.
- Early German tanks were not much technically superior from their neighbours, bar the radio fit and perhaps reliability. And they were inferior in armour to most French kit and some British. So an early German player has to learn to use them tactically, using enveloping moves to engage on the flanks and not simply standing still and duelling.

- If you park next door to an arty dump and draw attention to yourself by firing, then you can expect incoming delivery of presents by the other side which tends to touch off the ammo dump. Fire from a spot and then move the guns/mortars to a separate resupply location to bomb up again, and then move them to a fresh firing point to set up before firing again. If you must park beside an ammo supplier - use an armoured ammo carrier or an ammo bunker (hideously expensive, and deliberately so).

- The indirect fire 50mm mortars of any nation are pretty useless, unless you are in a static WWI trench situation at less than 500 yards. Use the heavy infantry section variants with them as direct fire weapons instead.

- Level bombers are only there for scenario designers to do the Normandy type opening barrages, e.g Goodwood and Cobra, and as a pre-planned barrage. The long delay in the game is simply to accommodate any player who takes them as on-call which is rather unrealistic in any case. Use your points on strike air, it is more versatile, or on arty.

- Rifle calibre anti-tank rifles are rather unreliable at killing even level one armour at 100m or less. Just as was discovered in WWII. A section of 37mm gun tanks per rifle coy, or a towed 37mm ATG section is more useful in this time frame - the latter needs skill to use properly though. Even a scout car armed with 20mm is useful in Poland as an AT and APERS support to riflemen. Otherwise, stick to any infantry with the gebalt ladnung hand grenade bundle till better AT grenades arrive in Russia.
(And if the AT rifles have enemy infantry within SMG range then they are in a perilous situation indeed!)

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 9th, 2009, 11:20 PM

runequester runequester is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 207
Thanks: 24
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
runequester is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Observations from my current german campaign

yeah, everything matches historical expectation. I am kicking myself over losing quite a few tanks to the Polish. I am well aware of the shortcomings of 1940 armour (I play tabletop miniatures games and mostly do Blitzkrieg era battles), but I got overcome by the urge to send tanks forward on their own. Needless to say, that didnt go well


Good observation on the level bombers. I wanted to try them out, but they are definately not something thats suitable in a battalion level fight
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 10th, 2009, 10:41 AM
Imp's Avatar

Imp Imp is offline
General
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Uk
Posts: 3,308
Thanks: 98
Thanked 602 Times in 476 Posts
Imp is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Observations from my current german campaign

If you want to do an assault bombers are quite a good thing to use for simulating pre game bombardment as drop quite a bit then disapear so player cant use.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 13th, 2009, 10:37 AM

Lt. Ketch Lt. Ketch is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Price
Posts: 276
Thanks: 31
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Lt. Ketch is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Observations from my current german campaign

Quote:
Originally Posted by runequester View Post
...I got overcome by the urge to send tanks forward on their own. Needless to say, that didnt go well
Been there. Done that. Hated myself for it. A while ago I posted a thread on sending unsupported tanks forward. If you, or anybody else, would like some good pointers on armoured advnaces and other topics, you can check it out here - http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42493. To be perfectly honest, you've got more guts then I do. I hate Poland!
__________________
"Charlie may be dancing the foxtrot, but I'm not going to stand around wearing a dress"

Howard Tayer
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old May 14th, 2009, 09:11 PM

runequester runequester is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 207
Thanks: 24
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
runequester is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Observations from my current german campaign

Fighting the British in 1940 is almost a bit of a breather. Though they buy far more artillery than I was anticipating. My poor guys are taking a LOT of 25 pdr shells inbound.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old May 12th, 2009, 09:38 AM

reverend reverend is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fürth, Germany
Posts: 384
Thanks: 8
Thanked 16 Times in 2 Posts
reverend is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Observations from my current german campaign

Level bomber in beach assault or river crossings can be a lot of fun. Or in a long battle where the enemy doesn't move his artillery after it being spotted.
__________________
Dom3 Nation Reference

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.