.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 30th, 2003, 08:39 AM
Renegade's Avatar

Renegade Renegade is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Classified
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Renegade is on a distinguished road
Default How Do You Defend Against

How do you defend a planet from invasion in PBW?

Here is what I have noticed:
1. Even though my designs prove themselves in battle simulations, they are consistently defeated by ships that should not be able to do so. Not by numbers, or greater skill level as my Fleet and ship Skill level is 20% and my ships are Battleships armed with PPB V backed up by DUC IV's. They are equipped with combat sensors and PDC's as well as an EMC and a Multi Targeting component.

I have noticed that the AI always defaults to allow certain weapons that should not be able to destroy a well defended/shielded ship to do so with great easy in combat but not in simulated combat.

I have also noted that despite having multiple well designed weapon platforms, troops, deployed mines, and even deployed satellites do nothing to prevent planet capture.

Granted I am semi new to multi player and I do have a lot to learn. I maxed out Aggressiveness and defensiveness and then researched military science to max. I placed my fleets in orbit over a planet that has both ship and fleet training facilities and then let them train to max 20% before sending them out to fight. I have fleets of 100 ships, mostly BC and BB with some Destroyers and LC as support.

I also noted that no more than 5 mines took out one of my smaller fleets at a Warp Point. 5 small mines that is. WTF gives with that?

How do you defend against poorly equipped ships kicking the crap out of your well armored, defended, and skilled ships?
__________________
Hail to the King baby.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 30th, 2003, 08:56 AM

SpaceBadger SpaceBadger is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 144
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
SpaceBadger is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How Do You Defend Against

Probably something to do with your fleet formation and the strategies of your fleet and ships. I figure you're using simultaneous turn resolution, so you don't see the actual combat as it happens? You can still watch the combat to try and figure out what went wrong - look for a "Combat Replay" button that goes with each log entry for combat. (So if you get a log entry telling you that 8 of your fine battleships were destroyed by 4 enemy escorts, click the Combat Replay button to watch the combat and figure out what went wrong.)

What formation are you using? Have you set ships to break formation in combat? What strategies are your ships assigned?

I'm also a newbie and have been going through some of the same frustration of apparently superior ships being defeated by apparently inferior ships - the replay has been a big help in trying to figure out how it happens.

SpaceBadger
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 30th, 2003, 09:58 AM
primitive's Avatar

primitive primitive is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 1,030
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
primitive is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How Do You Defend Against

Quote:
Originally posted by Renegade:

I also noted that no more than 5 mines took out one of my smaller fleets at a Warp Point. 5 small mines that is.
How do you know that ?
There are many "rotten" trics in PBW. Could it be that another player also had minefields on the same location ?

I have lost many battles in PBW, but I have never noticed any "cheating". Ususally its due to choosing the wrong tactics (the defaults really sucks) or badly designed fleets (who need PDC anyway ), but sometimes its just bad luck (like having my wall formation lining up inside my foes inverted arrowhead <-).

BTW:
Choosing Berzerker or Warrior for your race gives additional bonuses. The simulator do not consider racial bonuses or training.
__________________
Never trust a cop with rubber gloves.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 30th, 2003, 10:29 AM
narf poit chez BOOM's Avatar

narf poit chez BOOM narf poit chez BOOM is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: CHEESE!
Posts: 10,009
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 1 Post
narf poit chez BOOM is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How Do You Defend Against

hi, welcome to the forums. cheese?

it's a great game once you figure out what your doing.
__________________
If I only could remember half the things I'd forgot, that would be a lot of stuff, I think - I don't know; I forgot!
A* E* Se! Gd! $-- C-^- Ai** M-- S? Ss---- RA Pw? Fq Bb++@ Tcp? L++++
Some of my webcomics. I've got 400+ webcomics at Last count, some dead.
Sig updated to remove non-working links.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old September 30th, 2003, 11:17 AM
Ruatha's Avatar

Ruatha Ruatha is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Linghem, Östergötland, Sweden
Posts: 2,255
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ruatha is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How Do You Defend Against

I want to repeat primitives question;
How do you know that it was 5 small mines? Did your opponent tell you so?
You can't see minefields before you hit them, so I don't see how you know what mines there where?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old September 30th, 2003, 12:36 PM

tesco samoa tesco samoa is offline
General
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,603
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
tesco samoa is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How Do You Defend Against

your sweeper would get them as it sweeps one set then the next
__________________
RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHH
old avatar = http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...1051567998.jpg

Hey GUTB where did you go...???

He is still driving his mighty armada at 3 miles per month along the interstellar highway bypass and will be arriving shortly
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.