Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

[runequester]

Just started a Brit long campaign, and I bought some of the colonial infantry for flavour.When I was looking at their stats, I noticed that their Lewis guns have 1 higher Accuracy than the Bren gun. Isn't this out of whack, given that the Bren was almost too accurate for its role, or does accuracy cover something other than what I think, mechanically?

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by runequester

Just started a Brit long campaign, and I bought some of the colonial infantry for flavour.When I was looking at their stats, I noticed that their Lewis guns have 1 higher Accuracy than the Bren gun. Isn't this out of whack, given that the Bren was almost too accurate for its role, or does accuracy cover something other than what I think, mechanically?

Something for the to be investigated pile for next year's data update exercise.

Cheers
Andy

[DRG]

There's nothing to investigate. Both weapons use the same .303 ammo and the Lewis gun's barrel is 1.5 inches longer than a Bren and under the accuracy calcs we use that gives the Lewis 1 higher accuracy.

Lewis Gun — Barrel Length: 26.5 in = 26.5 / .303 /4 = 21.86 = 22 ACC

Bren Gun — Barrel Length: 25 in = 25 / .303 / 4 = 20.62 = 21 ACC

Don

[runequester]

Ah. So its all based off a formula then? Interesting.

It does make it sort of an odd situation, since it makes the bren an inferior weapon to the lewis gun. The other factors (reliability) arent applicable here.

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by runequester

Ah. So its all based off a formula then? Interesting.

It does make it sort of an odd situation, since it makes the bren an inferior weapon to the lewis gun. The other factors (reliability) arent applicable here.

BREN has a 30 round box magazine, Lewis a 57(?) round drum. You pays your money and takes your choices.

Cheers
Andy

[runequester]

Thats true. But I guess thats factors that arent really applicable to SP.
Anyways, now I understand how the numbers are figured out. Thanks!

[troopie]

The Bren is lighter and doesn't jam as much. At least that's what I heard

troopie

[DRG]

Originally Posted by runequester

Ah. So its all based off a formula then? Interesting.

It does make it sort of an odd situation, since it makes the bren an inferior weapon to the lewis gun. The other factors (reliability) arent applicable here.

It's an ACCURACY rating that's why it deals with ACCURACY and not "other factors" as you specifically asked why it had a ....."1 higher Accuracy than the Bren gun".


Don

[runequester]

Originally Posted by DRG

It's an ACCURACY rating that's why it deals with ACCURACY and not "other factors" as you specifically asked why it had a ....."1 higher Accuracy than the Bren gun".


Don

Eh. Im not trying to nitpick, I was just remarking that within the game stats, it doesn't make sense for the British army to have switched to the Bren

Like I mentioned, the factors that made the Bren superior aren't modelled in Steel Panthers, and thats okay, given that it'd be rather tedious to keep track of which squads had a jammed gun or whatnot.

[Mobhack]

Pick up a BREN - not much heavier than an SLR, a quick change barrel, and a magazine half as heavy again as an SLR.

Then pick up a Lewis, at least twice the weight, and a non-changeable barrel. Pity the poor guys who had to load an overwing Lewis on an SE5 in WW1 in a 120+ MPH gale...

Not modelled in SP games. But then again - at this battalion scale we really only should have Rifle, SLR, SMG, Assault Rifle, LMG. No pesky pistols - irrelevant. No individual names - an SMLE is exactly the same as a Kar98 at this scale. Just like normal 1/300 tabletop wargames rules handle small arms. The difference in stats of a point here or there are just meaningless trivia that only serve to bring out the train spotters really .

Andy