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Old June 9th, 2002, 10:13 PM

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several questions on several components in the game which i am just curious to know the meaning of:

*Solar Sail: i've met the thing in several other places and curious how does it work
*Meson BLaster: what *mesons* are?
*Phased Polaron and Phased Shields - no idea what these are
*Why null-space skips anything?

Just i know there are people here much older than am i (16) and i think that those people just might know how to explain to me what those things are
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Old June 9th, 2002, 10:22 PM
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I've always thought that Aaron got his ideas of Null space and Phased Polarons from Trek...

But Solar sails I think I can answer.

The Sun creates Solar winds; a path of ions (Methinks) that travel at high speed and keeps hitting our planet's magnetic sphear.

Solar sails are supposedley knit very closely that it catches the solar winds, and since the sail is made of a very thin substance, it can be propelled by the Solar winds.

A russian team funded by a company tried to launch a solar sail craft, but failed twice.

Edit: Mesons:

"All particles that participate in the forces that hold nucleons together in atomic nuclei."

Can't answer more than that; Wish I took physics.

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Old June 9th, 2002, 10:31 PM

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Thanks for the sails.
Mesons? I also didnt take physics and now i dont know any much about that.

As for trek stuff it still should have semi-scientific explanation. so im curious (yes right, just a little too much)
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Old June 9th, 2002, 10:36 PM

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Ok.

*Solar Sail: i've met the thing in several other
places and curious how does it work


Photons have momentum (although no mass). So when photons hit something, they impart their momemtum to it and push it along. Of course, they don't have much momentum, so they don't push things very hard. Roughly, a solar sail would be about the size of a small country would be needed to propel a spaceship, and acceleration would be agonizingly slow. On the plus side, solar sails (in theory) could get ships up to a significant percentage of lightspeed (like, 50% say)

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Meson BLaster: what *mesons* are?
Short answer: Mesons are sub-atomic particles (i.e. smaller than an atom, in fact, smaller than electrons, neutrons and protons). Long answer: study physics a lot, then study it a lot more.

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*Phased Polaron and Phased Shields - no idea what these are
*Why null-space skips anything?
I think these are just made up. Polarons might be real, but as always google comes to the rescue. A google search for +meson +subatomic comes up with a whole bunch of useful results. A search for +polaron +subatomic comes up with (mostly) episode synopses for Star Trek Voyager.

I suppose, in theory, the idea is that regular shields have a natural polarization (i.e. they admit electromagnetic radiation which has its components oriented in a certain direction). Phased polaron beams would (presumably) oscillate in this direction, and pass right though. Phased shields would stop this.

The important thing to remember is that most of it is not scientifically accurate (like too much science fiction (See also: Star Trek Voyager)). If it inspires you to actually learn a little about science, then it has done its job. Just don't get discouraged when the actual science isn't so immediately fascinating
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IIRC photons have a very small mass and a very high momentum. With a larger sail (not THAT big, several hundred meters) you can gain very high speed over time because of the constant pressure applied by the light. However, it would be very hard to navigate with such a sail as you can only sail with the photons (i.e. away from the nearby sun) and have no force (like friction) to "cruise" lake a real ship can in water.
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Isn't it funny how you can use solar sails to fly INTO the sun in SE4?
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