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February 7th, 2008, 03:25 PM
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quickness attack bonus?
I always thought that quickness gives a defense bonus, but not an attack bonus.
I recently noticed some units gaining both defense and attack bonusses. Their quickness was the result of the spell, not a blessing or item effect.
Is this supposed to happen?
If so, the quickness spell is a helluh of a lot better than the bless/item quickness...
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February 7th, 2008, 03:45 PM
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Re: quickness attack bonus?
Water blessing gives Defense as the low-level ability and Quickness (extra action every other turn) as level 9 ability. At level 9, Water gives +4 def, at 10, +5 def.
Quickness given via the spell or from an item (it's the same effect) gives +3 attack/+3 defense, and an extra action every turn.
Heroic Quickness gives an extra action every once in a while, starting from about 10% and increasing with time. I'm not sure if it gives attack or defense bonuses, but I don't think so.
I think the confusion comes from bless quickness just giving defense, while the spell also gives attack.
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February 7th, 2008, 03:47 PM
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Re: quickness attack bonus?
thanks for clarifying Endoperez!
so much for W9, guess I'll go find some water mages then..
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February 7th, 2008, 05:32 PM
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Re: quickness attack bonus?
Actually, the different kinds of quickness stack. Boots and the spell are the same effect, which don't stack, but boots, bless and heroic ability can combine into something ridiculous.
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February 7th, 2008, 05:46 PM
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Re: quickness attack bonus?
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parcelt said:
thanks for clarifying Endoperez!
so much for W9, guess I'll go find some water mages then..
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W9 is probably considered the best bless in the game.
Jazzepi
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February 7th, 2008, 06:49 PM
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Re: quickness attack bonus?
Yep - I think so too (W9 generally being the best bless).. that's why I was a bit dissappointed to find out the quickness from bless is actually only so-so when compared to items/spell..
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February 7th, 2008, 06:51 PM
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Re: quickness attack bonus?
If W9 gave units actual quickness, it would be unbelievably overpowered. And F9W9... that would just be sick...
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February 8th, 2008, 03:11 AM
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Re: quickness attack bonus?
Best blesses in my opinion are Water and Nature, becouse both boost strongly defense and offense. Water gives defense and quickness, nature give regen and berserk. The type of sacred means you might preffer one or the other (troops with a good def to start with will like Water more, and troops with high hit points will like Nature). However, nations with good sacred mages love Earth.
Death is probably the less useful one.
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