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Old March 14th, 2006, 03:34 PM

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I am (WAS) fighting Ermor and Jotunheim on two fronts with Abysia. I was beating Ermor and hoped to take their castle.

A force of 45 Jotuns came out of nowhere and in 3 turns took Abysia and a large battle at Ermor did not go as well for me. I won but my forces were depleted.

Next turn I get a hurricane on my second biggest province which was the only one left with a temple which got destroyed.

I am not a quitter but I know that I have no chance now.

I will start a new game with Abysia again and hope for better results...

ps: Do you guys generally win 1 player games???
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Old March 14th, 2006, 03:54 PM

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Confession: i actually lose quite alot of 1 man games (unless vrs easy ai which is too easy) but all i can say is while ive never been a fan of them before cb, blood of humans aby is good under cb (its sacreds get a weak fire shield which slaughters undead)
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Old March 14th, 2006, 04:09 PM

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I was playing regular Abysia and found thei blessed troops, Lava Warriors, to be too expensive to be worthwhile.

Maybe I will restart as Blood of Humans Abysia.
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Old March 14th, 2006, 04:23 PM
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I have a hard time vs the AI on difficult settings with 10 AI on certain maps. I don't like playing with small number of AI opponents on smaller maps, as I like the variety more AI's bring. That said, they tend to DoW at the worst possible time, coming in from multiple angles.

Try a non-wrap around map. If you get a good position, its much easier to defend against multiple AI's.
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Old March 14th, 2006, 06:35 PM

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Maybe you need to blood hunt more?
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I lose most games versus the AI unless I do something tried and true like Ermor AE which is well, boring.

When I play I try to see how full I can stack the deck against myself and still eke out the win.

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Old March 15th, 2006, 01:22 AM
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I often do quite well, but haven't had the time to actually finish any of my SP games in a long while. When I encounter a major setback that would slow the game down but not really stop me, I usually drop the game. I might lose those games, but I'd like to believe () that I would win them more often than not.

That said, it can be hard to try to survive on impossible settings (Mictlan on a small map vs too many enemies, with non-battle pretender). Some of my fondest memories are of total defeat.
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Old March 15th, 2006, 02:24 AM

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ps: Do you guys generally win 1 player games???
Normally, yes. Unless I seriously stack the deck against myself. There are a couple of tricks that you will pick up over time that will increase your ability over the AI dramatically. Half the fun is figuring them out tho.

As for using Abysia, yeah you should definitely blood hunt more. Do not attempt to play a bless strategy with Lava Warriors. While it might be possible it would without doubt be difficult. Use blood and summon up all manner of devils and demons to augment (and eventually supplant) your mortal armies.
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Once you understand how the computer plays, and what it can't handle, it becomes fairly easy to beat. I lost my first many games of Dominions 1, usually to Ermor. But even when I removed Ermor I still lost. Then I read various strategies and killer combos that people have devised, and I don't think I've ever lost to an AI since... though occasionally there are close calls.

In the base game, there are things you just can't do. Don't recruit slingers, light cavalry, horse archers, militia, or light infantry (some people will argue, but they probably lose to the AI ). Don't spend all your gems on magic items for your ordinary commanders. Don't spend all your gold on conventional armies. Don't rely on archers against heavy armor. Don't fight Ermor or Rlyeh with standard units. Don't summon ice, earth, or fire drakes, or wyverns, or most other low-level summons. Don't buy water mages. Don't set your province defense at 21 everywhere to get the cool new commander. Don't set taxes low to make people happy. In general, don't buy a human pretender. Don't buy any castle other than Castle, Wizard's Tower, Watch Tower, or Fortified City. Don't put a Ring of Water Breathing on a mage, send him underwater, have him build a lab, then put the ring in the lab. Don't make a Holy-2 indy priest into a prophet. Don't send a cyclops into combat, even though they are big and strong, because they have an anime eye that is 90% of their face and always gets hit. Don't use immortals in hostile dominion. Don't take extra paths on a pretender with expensive paths. Don't take Turmoil + Unluck. Don't take Drain unless you are Ulm, then take Drain 3. Don't take Growth either. Don't use Blood mages in battle.

Then there are things that you do do. Search for magic sites. Spend most of your money on mages, and have them focus their research on a goal. Equip them with Owl Quills, Skull Mentors, and Lightless Lanterns. Never forge anything without a Dwarven Hammer, if your nation can make them. Give Endless Bags of Wine to your commanders of large armies. Buy a Wyrm god and send it out solo on turn one. Or take a Vampire Queen and give it Black Steel Plate and various other items, and let it rip. Mass priests against undead hordes (and by "mass" I mean 20-40, not 2-4). Mass battle-mages aganst normal armies, with Blade Wind, Lightning Bolt, Thunder Strike, Falling Fires, Falling Frost, Nether Bolt, Nether Darts, and so forth. Mass units that don't have upkeep for your armies - Vine Ogres, Summer Lions, Longdeads, Soulless, Fairies, Demons, Vampires, Crossbreeds, and so forth. But get them as cheaply as possible. Go underwater ASAP, using amphibious summons or mercenaries or even an amphibious God. Use boosting items and boosting spells to raise your mage power levels for good combat spells, or to make the spells more powerful and cheaper. Go for spells with multiple effects or wide areas, or ideally, the entire battlefield (Fire Storm, Earthquake, etc). Kill enemy armies remotely with Murdering Winter and similar "artillery" spells. Dedicate 5 provinces to blood-hunting, summon all the Ice Devils, give them nice equipment, and watch them annihilate helpless enemy armies. Or summon Bane Lords, give them Wraith Swords and Flying Boots, and do the same thing. Forge Soul Contracts, Lifelong Protections, and Skullfaces and observe their effects. Mass archers and cast Flaming Arrows and Wind Guide. Research super-strong mass summons and use those instead of low-level single-unit summons; for example, Summon Wights, Ether Gate, Fairy Court, and the mass-Devil, Ice Demon, Storm Demon, and Demon Knight spells. Summon a Lamia Queen to summon Lamias instead of summoning your own Lamias, and summon a Vampire Lord to make Vampires for free instead of summoning Vampires. Summon an Ivy King and give him an Ivy Crown (I forget which slot he's missing... head? hands? feet?), then let him summon Vine Ogres at a huge bonus. If you have a nation with strong holy troops, either pick a strong bless and buy tons of them, or don't use a bless strategy, and don't waste money on sacred units; but don't go half-way.

In general, if you don't do the "don't dos" and pick a few "do dos", you'll beat the AI unless you get encircled by multiple opponents early. You can't just look at it like Risk or Warcraft... you have to plan for specific long-term killer strategies, then execute them.
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that post should almost be stickied, saber cherry. good call.
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