Murderous Aliens

[Erhardt]

I give them technology, I wine them and dine them with trade agreements and they still never get past murderous. How do you schmooze aliens into not hating your guts? I can get up to a score of a meg within 27 turns now, yet my alien relations suck. Any ideas?

[jc173]

Are you using a mod? If you have gone past a meg you've probably triggered the mega evil empire event which means everyone is gonna really hate you.

A lot of the other "negative feelings" from the other empires can be from their desire to own some of your planets. So if you expand too fast they'll be jealous so to speak. I've found that a lot of times there doesn't seem to be much you can do about their attitudes toward you. Even then sometimes their attitudes don't seem to make much sense. I currently have murderous allies in Partnership treaties and races I am at war with that have a brotherly

[Erhardt]

Does the same thing with/without mods. I still cannot figure out why murderous races can have trade agreements and happy races immediately go to war with me. I'll try running a new game and watching out for too fast a progression.
This is the one feature I would like to see improved: some way/building/ability/etc. to affect diplomacy with other races.

[DirectorTsaarx]

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Originally posted by Erhardt:
Does the same thing with/without mods. I still cannot figure out why murderous races can have trade agreements and happy races immediately go to war with me. I'll try running a new game and watching out for too fast a progression.
This is the one feature I would like to see improved: some way/building/ability/etc. to affect diplomacy with other races.

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Yeah - an "Embassy" facility. Maybe even make it specific to a race (obviously, ones that you've met already). Set it up so you either have to (or get a bonus) if you build all embassies on one planet. Maybe implement the unused "Palace" facility, so that you have to have a Palace on the planet with the embassies.

This would be a perfect facility to "force" onto Ringworlds or Sphereworlds (maybe get a bonus if you build Embassies on Ring/Sphereworlds).

[jc173]

I love this game, but personally I think the diplomacy model is fubar. I can almost never get anyone to accept a cease fire even when their attitude is brotherly. Personally I think I ought to be able to ram a cease fire down their throats if I have demolished 75% of their military. Accept a cease fire or all your planets will glow in the dark for the next thousand years. Also has anyone every managed to get a race to accept a treaty of subjugation?

[Nitram Draw]

Embassies sound cool. I would even suggest that you need one before you can even offer a treaty or trade agreement with another empire.