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Old August 16th, 2002, 06:34 PM
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Default The Future for SE IV? Does it have one?

Will Malfador continue to support the game following the release of this latest patch? Or will it leave well enough alone and call it quites?

SE IV has been out now for nearly two years, and by all rights its game over man. Most publishers stop supporting their games after the year and a half mark. That is if your lucky. At what point does Malfador say tough **** SE IV fans, buy SE V?

Will there be an SE V? I doubt it. Since they did not make any money off of SE IV, there can be no SE V. To have an SE V, will mean that Aaron will have to incorperate a 3D combat system. Since most Four X games since 97 and on have had 3D combat, one has to really wonder why SE IV did nt have it. I don't think not having hurt the game, in fact I think it made the game that much more enjoyable. However, an evolution must be made. So will there be an SE V? I will bet no.

The cost is too high to produce it.
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Old August 16th, 2002, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: The Future for SE IV? Does it have one?

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Will Malfador continue to support the game following the release of this latest patch? Or will it leave well enough alone and call it quites?

SE IV has been out now for nearly two years, and by all rights its game over man. Most publishers stop supporting their games after the year and a half mark. That is if your lucky. At what point does Malfador say tough **** SE IV fans, buy SE V?
Given the healthy modding community here, obviously there are still plenty of people interested in the game, and interested in improving it.

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Will there be an SE V? I doubt it. Since they did not make any money off of SE IV, there can be no SE V.
Where did you get that tidbit of information? I mean, they didn't GIVE SE4 away, theys old it. They didn't sell it for $5US a pop, they charged reasonable rates.

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To have an SE V, will mean that Aaron will have to incorperate a 3D combat system. Since most Four X games since 97 and on have had 3D combat, one has to really wonder why SE IV did nt have it. I don't think not having hurt the game, in fact I think it made the game that much more enjoyable. However, an evolution must be made.
IT does not neccessarily follow that combat MUST be 3D, "because veryone else is doing that" ... nor that an evolution MUST incorporate 3D anything.

Would it be nice? sure. But not required.

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So will there be an SE V? I will bet no.

The cost is too high to produce it.
Unless you have access to MM's books, you can't know that for certain.

Now, stop trolling. Please.
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Default Re: The Future for SE IV? Does it have one?

I think ManOfWar is just peeved that the troll thread he started about fan shipsets got locked, so he's trying to start another troll thread with plenty pointless and incorrect premises.

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Default Re: The Future for SE IV? Does it have one?

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Will Malfador continue to support the game following the release of this latest patch? Or will it leave well enough alone and call it quites?
dunno, it could be the Last one, since DO is also in production
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SE IV has been out now for nearly two years, and by all rights its game over man. Most publishers stop supporting their games after the year and a half mark. That is if your lucky. At what point does Malfador say tough **** SE IV fans, buy SE V?
I doubt Malfador would ever say tough **** to the fans
But i wouldn't be upset or surprised if they stopped supporting it now.

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Will there be an SE V? I doubt it. Since they did not make any money off of SE IV, there can be no SE V. To have an SE V, will mean that Aaron will have to incorperate a 3D combat system. Since most Four X games since 97 and on have had 3D combat, one has to really wonder why SE IV did nt have it. I don't think not having hurt the game, in fact I think it made the game that much more enjoyable. However, an evolution must be made. So will there be an SE V? I will bet no.

The cost is too high to produce it.
Uhm, Richard said several times that SE4 is their top selling title, i would find it hard to believe if there was no profit made then.
And 3D combat isn't mandatory, i don't think GalCiv has 3D combat.
I do think 3D realtime (pausable) combat would be an improvement, but that would surely drive the production cost up. And i think there are other ways SE5 could improve over SE4 than just graphics, AI and diplomacy for example.

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Default Re: The Future for SE IV? Does it have one?

Hey I made a mistake with that "other" thread. This one is as it reads.

My point is that the COST would prohibit the inclusion of 3D combat, and since no publisher will even look at a Four X game without 3D combat, the reason to produce it is null and void.

Hell I would love to see SE V, but I fear that it would not be "cost effective" to produce it.
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"My point is that the COST would prohibit the inclusion of 3D combat, and since no publisher will even look at a Four X game without 3D combat, the reason to produce it is null and void."

heh. Not Shrapnel. Check out Dungon Oddysey for more proof of the "gameplay over graphics" style

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