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October 15th, 2001, 05:54 AM
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Are battles always one sided?
Hello all,
I've been in a pbw game for a 100 turns or so (the longest I've ever played a SE game) and every battle seems to be a complete demolishment of one side with the other taking few casualties.
I don't believe there is much of a technology difference to warrant this but the 6 or so major battles I've been in have all been one sided.
Some examples of the battles have been
50 ships vs 50 ships yields one side destroyed, the other losing around 4 ships (plus they captured one for a net of 3)
30 vs 20 means no loss to the 30 and homeworld exposed for the other guy.
30 ships ambush 40, destroying all and taking no losses.
And the most recent one
35 ships, (mainly battle crusiers with PPBs and level 2 phased shields) get surprised by 101 ships, mainly cruisers (with quantom torpedoes and level 4 phased shields).
The result?
101 ships blown to smitherenes with a single battle cruiser lost on the other side and no other damage no any of the fleet.
To quote the defeated
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New estimates show that it takes approximately 100 Spoo ships to kill one People's ship.
Expense minister Mr. Big explaines this as "not exactly economical"
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Just wondering what other people's experience has been.
Does fleet/ship experience points have that much of a difference? If so ...yuk!
Askan
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October 15th, 2001, 06:37 AM
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Captain
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Re: Are battles always one sided?
Yes combat is very one sided. The player who is higher on the player list always has the upperhand in combat with equal ships. Combat needs to be fixed. They need to set it up so ships shoot at the same exact time. That would fix combat alot. Or change it so defenders move and fire first.
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October 15th, 2001, 06:38 AM
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Sergeant
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Re: Are battles always one sided?
Yes, this is a problem of sorts in SEIV...
The chance to hit is very important. I have seen many battles such as the ones you describe...in the case of 35 vs 100+ ships, did the 35 have superior sensors, training, and/or stealth/scattering armor?
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October 15th, 2001, 06:39 AM
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Re: Are battles always one sided?
Heh, ZeroAdunn posted one minute before me
To correct you though, the player's number is ONLY a factor on wormhole battles, not in every single battle.
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October 15th, 2001, 06:43 AM
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Re: Are battles always one sided?
Yeah, you're wormhole defense can be made or broken on who fires first. If the defender is higher in number, your only options are to attack in overwhelming numbers, accepting massive losses, or go around.
My Bashaka wormhole defense, in one game I'm in, has wiped out entire FLEETS of dreadnaughts without so much as a shot fired in return.
Of course, I do have 30 space stations, 50 WMG-armed sats there at all times, and use it as a staging groud for my fleets, so the total number averages about 100 ships firing before the attacker even gets to blink.
Phoenix-D
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October 15th, 2001, 07:12 AM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Are battles always one sided?
30 space stations on one warp point??!!!! Thats crazy man. and 50 sats to boot!! wow was that the only warp point into that system. Your opponents must have been pretty mad
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