Paper, Rock, Marignon!

[Cheezeninja]

after reading Gandalf Parker's post about the balance of Dominions 2 in the Pangea new age post: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=74;t=002539 i started wondering about what the more experienced people on this board think about certain nations trumping others. Mostly this is just for my education and the education of any other new people out there. What im looking for is kinda

beats because:

[Gandalf Parker]

None of them are absolute. Even my "paper, rock, Marignon" example (good catch picking up on ppaer-rock-scissor thing) isnt absolute. Ulm only does Marignon in shorter games and smaller maps. On the other hand Ermor is vastly damaged by small games and small maps. And of course the biggest factor is whether the nation is being played by a player who can really use that nation well.

It tends to work better when someone brings up a specific. Such as "what trumps Abyssia" or "what trumps Arcos"

I would like to see other peoples ideas for another Paper-Rock-Scissors though

[HotNifeThruButr]

Nobody absolutely beats anyone else. There are plenty of nations with the holy firepower to bLast Ermor to hell. Except Vanheim probably does best against killer dominions, better than even Marignon, I might add.

I'd like to add that Ulm might stand a fighting chance against Ermor if you have your Arbalests gunning for commanders, which would usually mean firing on rearmost. Better with Rangers.BTW, this is "theorycraft," if you're familiar with that term.

[velk]

Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
I'd like to add that Ulm might stand a fighting chance against Ermor if you have your Arbalests gunning for commanders, which would usually mean firing on rearmost.

I'm not sure about that actually, the motto of ashen empire is 'there's plenty more where those came from'. When you go into a fight with 500 units, expecting 70%+ losses, separating commanders just isn't as compelling as it is for other races. Especially with those particularly vexing immortal commanders.

[Kel]

I am not terribly experienced but it seems to me, that diplomacy and early expansion are the most important factors. Some nations are surely better against certain other nations and contrary to popular cliche, some nations are almost certainly just 'better', on average, than others...but starting position seems more important to me in practice.

- Kel

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
I'd like to add that Ulm might stand a fighting chance against Ermor if you have your Arbalests gunning for commanders, which would usually mean firing on rearmost. Better with Rangers.BTW, this is "theorycraft," if you're familiar with that term.

The flaw with that theory is that normal units have no "Fire Rear" option.