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Old September 18th, 2002, 01:22 AM

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Hi Hi.

I'm a newbie in SE IV, and I've got some questions (surprising, isn't it ?)

1- war state : I had a few battle with an alien race, but there is no state of war between our empires. I think that the war declaration must be official to have a state of war. What's the use of declaring an official war ?

2- I've cause some battles by moving a ship on an ennemy ship. Sometimes the computer warn me that, doing that, there would be a battle, sometimes not (erspecially on warp points, I think). Why ?

3- I'm not an english native speaker (i thing you should already know...) and i wold like to know if an attitude "cool" for alien races is more friendly that an attitude "warm".

4- What is the best way to declare a non aggression pact ? I made very ressources gift to an alien race, but they keep on refusing my treatie requests...

5- What's the use of warheads designed to be used by ramming into another ship ? I tryied it on my fregate, and i bumped into an escort : result : two ships destroyed ! I thought that kamikase area was over 'til 1945...

6- Do two research centers an the same planet provide two times more research points ?

7- Last but not least. Is it possible to refit an existing ship ? (updating missiles, cannons, engines and so on...). Is it possible to change the design of a ship without creating a new design name (which would not obliged me to have an escort I, escort II, escort III design vessels in the design list)

That's all for now.
Oh, I forgot : That game looks really great...

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Old September 18th, 2002, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: acts of war, war declaration and other topics (my first message!)

Hi trooper

I am a newbie my self... So I'll answer the ones I know something about.

1 State of war or lack of it puzzles me somewhat too. I do know I can still trade where there is no declaration of war. Whether that exists in a war state, I couldn't say without testing it.

3 Warm is friendlier than cool

5 Never tried warheads and raming. But I believe the idea is to take out larger ships. More difficult in strategic play I would imagine.

6 Yes, 2 research facilities will double your research points.

7 Yes you can refit. Press "upgrade". You need an entirely new name unless it has never been used, (such as in a construction queue or actually built) in which case press "edit"

Never tried this, but I would imagine you can make a design obsolete (make sure there are no ships with that name), the program should remove the name from the design queue and then you can reuse it.

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Old September 17th, 2002, 02:51 PM

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5 Never tried warheads and raming. But I believe the idea is to take out larger ships. More difficult in strategic play I would imagine.
So it's definitively a kamikase option. Restricted to escort ships, I think ?
It's more effective than a missile ?

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7 Yes you can refit. Press "upgrade". You need an entirely new name unless it has never been used, (such as in a construction queue or actually built) in which case press "edit"

Never tried this, but I would imagine you can make a design obsolete (make sure there are no ships with that name), the program should remove the name from the design queue and then you can reuse it.
Mmm... don't think obsolete designs are erased, I've already tried this. 'Seems you can't upgrade your design model and use the same name for the recent Version.
The refit process that you describe is for design upgrade, but is it possible to upgrade ships with the new design Version ?

thanks!

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Default Re: acts of war, war declaration and other topics (my first message!)

1- war state
If war exists AI becomes more angry, and sends more ships to attack you.

2- I've cause some battles by moving a ship on an ennemy ship.
If no treaty, ships must not cross or they will fight.

3- I'm not an english native speaker
Cool means "polite on the face, but angry inside" You are too close to their space, you have much more ships and planets, or they just don't like other people

4- What is the best way to declare a non aggression pact ?

Give small gifts first, as they become more happy they will accept treaty. Some races are just always angry

5- What's the use of warheads designed to be used by ramming into another ship ? I tryied it on my fregate, and i bumped into an escort : result : two ships destroyed ! I thought that kamikase area was over 'til 1945...

Should have worked, but maybe frigate is too small. Some armor will help it work better.

6- Do two research centers an the same planet provide two times more research points ?

Yes, more facilities(miner, farm, refiner, research), better result

7- Last but not least. Is it possible to refit an existing ship ?

Yes, design better ship of same hull size. Click green recycle button on button bar, retrofit is available

(updating missiles, cannons, engines and so on...). Is it possible to change the design of a ship without creating a new design name (which would not obliged me to have an escort I, escort II, escort III design vessels in the design list)

No, game needs new name to know which is which.
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Default Re: acts of war, war declaration and other topics (my first message!)

Just to clarify on your retrofit question, there are actually two different functions. If you want to improve your design (for ships you build in the future) use the Upgrade function from the design screen. Also on this screen you can mark designs as obsolete. If you select the option "Hide Obsolete" (also on the design screen) older models will not be shown.

Second, if you want to retrofit EXISTING ships, take them to a space yard (planet or ship) and click the green recycling symbol, it will give you the option to retrofit them to a better design.

Hope that makes sense.
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So it's definitively a kamikase option. Restricted to escort ships, I think ?
It's more effective than a missile ?
Kamikaze is a Last resort when enemy ships are too strong, leave for now. The game may put in by self, but don't build

Not just for escort, a big ship, with much armor, a high speed, and self-repair will survive many rams. Now that's fun.

Try it with a colonizer. Once, 4 million people had to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the homeworld.

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