Dhem - The Allspring - Version 0.2 (now with pics)

[Rysan Marquise]

I am making a series of 3 nations (EA, MA, and LA) for a nation.


The first two are now done! Version 0.2 is out. It should address more exponential growth problems and adds the nation to the second age.

The pretender and descriptions have been added. The pretender is still super-beta though.

Next version will likely just be a documentation/description change and the addition of a pretender.

It begins when they discover the Allspring and begin gathering around it. The Allspring is a raw elemental layline, literally made out of elementals. They create a hierarchy around those who can tap into the raw power.

Gem Income:
2 Earth/Fire/Wind/Water

Units:
Slave (basically Micitan Slave)

Fourfold Elemental: 25 Gold/5 res (capital only)
str 4 prot 8
Flame Strike -Cold -Lightning Strikex2
Armor - Flesh Ward
hp 10 -mor 20 -mr 8 -att 6-def 6-ap 12-prec 10-enc 1
fire/cold/shock res 90%
Regeneration 5 hp/turn
Sacred, Magical (obviously)

Commanders:
150 gold/80 res
Speaker of Flame
Speaker of the Wind
Speaker of Water
Speaker of the Earth

All can 'call allies' to summon elementals each turn
Size-3 Fire
3 Size-1 Air
2 Size-2 Water
Size-3 Earth

Magic: 10% chance of their element 10 times


Page: 50 gold/10 res
No Magic
5 Research
Stealth 0

Wellspark 400 gold/100 res (capital only)
4 Misc Slots
str 8 prot 12
Small Area Fire/Frost/Shock/Stun
Armor: Flesh Ward
Fire/Cold/Shock Res: 100%
Regeneration 2hp/turn
2 Holy
hp 10-mor 18-mr 12-att 8-def 8-ap 12-prec 10-enc 0
magic/goodleader/goodmagicleader
Size 3


If anyone could tell me how to make a unit expire after several turns (I intend to have the Wellspark be cheaper but only last 8 turns). Feedback over what is blatantly overpowered if appreciated. The general idea is that the nation is extremely reliant upon elemental for their military. Nearly all their units are magical, and the rest likely are independents.

Now with 100% more first-post mod.

[Thilock_Dominus]

Sounds like a good idea.

If anyone could tell me how to make a unit expire after several turns (I intend to have the Wellspark be cheaper but only last 8 turns).

Mod command-wise it's not possible, and I don't know a work-around for this.

[Burnsaber]

If anyone could tell me how to make a unit expire after several turns (I intend to have the Wellspark be cheaper but only last 8 turns).

If the unit is a commander, you could give it a custom #onebattlespell that makes it start each battle with the "decay" effect.

That's about it, sadly.

[elmokki]

Magic: 10% chance of their element 10 times

Chance for magic levels, rounded to 1 decimal until 5, from where rounded to show how small the chances get:
0: 34.9%
1: 38.7%
2: 19.4%
3: 5.7%
4: 1.1%
5: 0.015%
6: 0.0014%
7: 0.000087%
8: 0.0000036%
9: 0.000000009%
10: 0.0000000001%

Gotten with following formula: (0.9^(10-X)*0.1^X)*(10CX) where X is the level of path and C is symbol for combination.

So they aren't very special mages really. They're actually really crap as casters, seeing how almost three quarters of them have 0 or 1 levels of a path.

6 chances of 30% would result in:
0: 11.8%
1: 30.3%
2: 32.4%
3: 18.5%
4: 5.9%
5: 1%
6: 0.007%

As a general rule, whatever amount of chances of 50% will result in the most common amount being the median, ie the most central value, of the possibilities. Like 2 and 3 in 5 chances of 50%. Chances under 50% will result in the most common value being closer to the start of the probability distribution. Like we see, upping the chance from 10% to 30% and lowering the maximum amount of picks results in the most common result rising slightly.

[kianduatha]

Are you wanting something that's only useful in combat for 8 rounds, or only lasts half a year or so before dying horribly?

For the former, exhaustion is pretty awesome. For the latter...maybe bad enough old age that they won't last the winter? Like maxage 5 or something.

That sacred guy seems crazy powerful. Lots of attacks(even with the low str, aren't some of those armor negating? and aoe?), powerful regen, near immunity to elemental magic, and blood vengeance? I can't imagine trying to face a group of 10 of them without mage support. I also can't imagine what bless to take (other than death and blood) since you have most everything covered already with them. Giving recruitables artifact-level gear is so off-normal that I can't conceive of how this would play out.

You do have a lot of nice ideas, like the random magic paths on the Speakers. That's just classy. And I always wanted to see a nation like this.

Now I have to think of how to make recruitables with Bone Armor work. Even better, a nation where all the commanders wear Pebble Skin Suits. Oh dear.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Rysan Marquise

I am making a series of 3 nations (EA, MA, and LA) for a nation.

It begins when they discover the Allspring and begin gathering around it. The Allspring is a raw elemental layline, literally made out of elementals. They create a hierarchy around those who can tap into the raw power.



Page: 50 gold/10 res
No Magic
5 Research
Stealth 0

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How is this possible? doesn't #researchbonus need at least 1 magic path?(excluded holy)

[Burnsaber]

Originally Posted by Swan

How is this possible? doesn't #researchbonus need at least 1 magic path?(excluded holy)

Just copystat the Gath recruitable, which has research without magic. However, you will get #wastesurvival and #sacred tags, which you can't get rid of.

[Rysan Marquise]

I ended up copying the philosopher, but even their mages have a high resource requirement, so full sloth is probably a bad idea (weak I know). I am trying to remove the philosophizer effect.

I am aware the mages are weak, and you may be right that they are too weak, especially considering this is EA. I think I will go with. 8 instances of 20%
0: 16.7%
1: 33.5%
2: 29.3%
3: 14.6%
4: 4.6%
5: 0.9%
6: 0.11%
7: 0.008192%
8: 0.000256%

I wanted players to be conflicted over getting mages or pages, and if the mages were all excellent, it would be no-contest.

I had wanted a unit that would die after about a year of use in order to give them significant problems commanding without summons or magic.


The elementals aren't that powerful in practice. The default flesh ward item does not give blood vengeance to units. but is basically a 0-protection armor. It gives something for earth-bless to work on.

[LumenPlacidum]

Can you give wellsparks the effect where if they leave their home province they lose hitpoints? Then, just don't give them many hitpoints. This effect is present on things like hamadryads, I think

[Swan]

i always learn something new, i mean, who need education when you have this forum?