Realism (of a sort)

bmills · #1 January 27th, 2001, 07:19 PM

It seems to me that when you make a ringworld or sphereworld it should not have any mineral resources. After all, you built it, right? Why would you bury minerals just so you could mine them again? You could make it fertile so it should have good organics, and if the term "radioactives" really means energy sources in general, then these worlds should have high Ratings for their solar collection capability. At any rate, I would like to customize my own games this way. I remember seeing a way to set a planet's initial resource levels in the data files, but now can't find it again. Can somebody tell me where it is?

Tomgs · #2 January 27th, 2001, 08:24 PM

Well the settings.txt in the Data file has this but it is for all planets. I don't see any way to change it just for ring and sphere worlds.

bmills · #3 January 27th, 2001, 08:41 PM

The two I've built both had Ratings of 150% in all three areas, so there must be something that sets these values rather than assigning them randomly like other planets. Maybe it's not in the files?

Aegis · #4 January 29th, 2001, 12:22 PM

Well it depends on how a ring or sphere world is built. The only feasible way that I can see is that you build large gravity generators in a grid, and attract matter to them( asteroids, space dust and such). These fill the spaces between the grid lines, and provide most of the material for the worlds. They can then be mined.
Now, even then the idea is farstretched. I love RW's and SW's, but in reality getting the material for them is always going to be problematic. After all they are HUGE. (The present Versions actually allow each inhabitent to have at least a continent size area to themselves, even when they're fully populated. They could easily hold trillions of people. )
However, given that you have built one, however implausible the building process, I see no reason why you can't generate resources there. They are not just a very big ship after all. They are worlds. Massive worlds.

-Aegis

DirectorTsaarx · #5 January 29th, 2001, 06:58 PM

The other thing that comes with being a huge structure is a huge gravity well - which means extraneous material is constantly being pulled in from space as well. Maybe the mineral miners are pulling in "space debris" as well...

Puke · #6 January 29th, 2001, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Aegis:
Well it depends on how a ring or sphere world is built. The only feasible way that I can see is that you build large gravity generators in a grid, and attract matter to them( asteroids, space dust and such). These fill the spaces between the grid lines, and provide most of the material for the worlds. They can then be mined.
Now, even then the idea is farstretched. I love RW's and SW's, but in reality getting the material for them is always going to be problematic. After all they are HUGE. (The present Versions actually allow each inhabitent to have at least a continent size area to themselves, even when they're fully populated. They could easily hold trillions of people. )
However, given that you have built one, however implausible the building process, I see no reason why you can't generate resources there. They are not just a very big ship after all. They are worlds. Massive worlds.

-Aegis

wow. check out the big brain on Aegis, thats something I had not really considered in their construction before. if that were the case, in a limited resource game, could you mine the world out, then just flick on the gravity generator again to replenish the resources? would it crush all your existing facilities if you did so? would something that big have enough gravity by its bad self without even needing generators, and woud it not take advantage of all the stars gravity and the naturally occuring ring of dust / debris in the stars orbital plain? hmmm...

..and if there is artificial gravity (or a spining ring) could the facilities be built on the inside while resources pile up on the outside?