Is this a bug?

CW · #1 August 4th, 2001, 10:15 AM

I've been playing around with the simulator a lot lately, since I've to redesign all of my ships for my not-so-smart AI admiral to use in PBW games. I did some experiments with DNs armed with both alligence subverters and boarding parties, and I noticed that they were capturing MC-controlled enemy ships with their subverters! (I tried my ships out in tactical mode by putting them on full auto)

Question: Is it intentional that you can capture a MC-controlled enemy ship with subverters after the MC is destroyed?

I've checked that none of the boarding parties on my ships were used, so if the answer to my question is "no" then this must be a bug either way - either the boarding parties were not properly displayed as "used" or my ships were really capturing MC-controlled enemy ships with subverters.

[This message has been edited by CW (edited 04 August 2001).]

Atrocities · #2 August 4th, 2001, 03:00 PM

Send it to Aaron.

Puke · #3 August 5th, 2001, 02:35 AM

its been around for a while. whats really rude is that you can hit a ship with a computer virus then nail it with your subverter. combine that with religious tech, and you have one mean fleet. sometimes.

I thought it was supposed to have been fixed in 1.35 or so, but i guess not.

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geoschmo · #4 August 5th, 2001, 02:49 AM

I think the key here is that you are seeing this on the simulator. Damage to components doesn't show up on the simulator. So with the scenario you are describing, there would be no way to know whether the boarding parties or the allegiance subverter is the one doing the capturing. Have you seen this also happen in the game as well as in the simulator?

Change your ship design so they only have one or the other, and then run your tests. My guess is you will see that you can only capture the MC controlled ships with the boarding parties.

If I am incorrect, it does need reported to MM.

Geoschmo

CW · #5 August 5th, 2001, 04:44 AM

Geoschmo, I was running my simulations in tactical mode by putting my ships on auto, so I got to see what ever damage the ships sustained. I've tried your suggestion and and I was right... the ships were really capturing MC-controlled enemies with their subverters. In fact I couldn't make them capture ships with boarding parties, they keep destroying their targets or running away to a corner.

The AI is more amazing then I thought. When I put my ships on test with subverters and their normal weapons alone (ie. no boarding parties) it was so skillful that my ships destroyed every component on every enemy ship *except* for their armour plates! Then they would convert the enemies with their subverters. It makes sense if you are trying to *board* the enemy ships, but with subverters...?

geoschmo · #6 August 5th, 2001, 05:09 AM

I don't know then CW. I was thinking that in the simulator you couldn't see which components got damaged, even in tactical, but I see now I was wrong. I think it used to be that way. Was that fixed in a patch or something?

It sounds like you have found a bug there.