Finding Site Castles and Attacks

vfb · #1 February 14th, 2009, 07:19 PM

If you are searching province 'A', and have an army in province 'A', and you find a site castle in the province, and your province 'A' is attacked by an enemy nation, your army in 'A' will take part in that battle. Even though they are not patrolling the castle.

But armies moving into 'A' from another province will not take part in the battle, because they just move into the castle that was found during the site-searching stage. It can be inconvenient to have your armies get split up like this.

It would be nice if the 'Move and Patrol' option was always available, so if you anticipated that you might find a site castle in the same month you are attacked, you could give your armies the 'Move and Patrol' order when moving into a non-castle province.

Lingchih · #2 February 14th, 2009, 07:34 PM

Indeed. Always having move and patrol available would be most helpful.

lch · #3 February 14th, 2009, 07:50 PM

Then you'd have to use it all the time though, or at least when you know you're going to search the province and expect a fort from it. Will just be of use to vets, might confuse newbies. Maybe the mechanic would have to be changed instead.

vfb · #4 February 14th, 2009, 08:10 PM

Well, I'd probably use it when I'm site searching a province and my enemy has moved his army next to my province. In the game I'm in where this occurred, it would have been better to postpone searching until the attack I anticipated had taken place. But I wasn't sure I'd find a fort, and also wasn't sure if my army would be split, and I managed to squeak out a victory in any case.

rdonj · #5 February 14th, 2009, 08:25 PM

A slightly more obvious use to relative noobs would be that with move and patrol, you save a turn if you want to patrol a certain province for scouts or stealth armies. Which would make it much more likely for you to find stealthing armies roaming your territories.

vfb · #6 February 14th, 2009, 08:21 PM

Oops oops oops!

The army that was in the province with the site-searching unit was actually patrolling, so of course that's why it took part in the battle (except for the unit which was site-searching, he stayed in the castle).

I'd still like to have 'Move and Patrol' always available, but it's not a huge priority.

vfb · #7 February 14th, 2009, 08:29 PM

Are you sure? I thought that you don't actually get any patrolling benefit out of "Move and Patrol" armies on the turn they have the orders to "Move and Patrol".

rdonj · #8 February 14th, 2009, 08:38 PM

No, actually I'm not 100% sure, I was just assuming it would have the effect. I suppose the way to test would be to see if it's possible to cause a stealthy army to be caught by troops with high patrolling value set to move and patrol to a fort province, but I've never tried it.

If it doesn't work that way then I would agree there is basically no use for the command to the average noob, or even probably most players period.

Lingchih · #9 February 14th, 2009, 08:46 PM

No, the command is very useful. But it does not do any good for patrolling benefit on the first turn it is used.

Dedas · #10 February 14th, 2009, 08:47 PM

I think it is an excellent idea! And why take newbies into consideration? It's not like this game is newbie friendly from the beginning anyway. We are an elitist group aren't we? Just say yes, I want to be part of something grand.