Soviet OBB T-62 designations

[Smersh]

In the Russian OBB units number 18, 19 and 20 use a un-common designation scheme.

Unit 18 is called the 'T-62M', the more common name is the T-62A, unit 19, is called 'T-62 M1975' the more common name is T-62M. Unit 20 is called 'T-62 M1984'. which is just another variant of the T-62M with newer model ammunition

this isn't a major issue, but it just simplifies T-62 designations and makes them agree with a majority of sources.

[DRG]

You mean there really are a "majority of sources" that agree on the Soviet T-whatever tank series numbering ?

Do tell where. Sorting out Russian model numbers is about as much fun as sorting out what a "panzergrenadier" company should look like.

And yes, there are non standard designations in the game and they are there to make things easier for people so is we put two "T-62M" in the game you know someones going to complain one costs more than the other and they cannot figure out why becasue they have the same name so way back when the OOB designers decided to add things like 'T-62 M1984' so it's a bit more clear this is a different model

I'll tell you want. You get everyone to agree on what all the T54 and T55 and T62 and T64 and T72 and T80 and T90 designantions are supposed to be so they "agree with a majority of sources" and apply them to the units we have in the game and when everyone is happy I will be glad to change them to whatvever they "should" be. In the meantime I will cut and paste this into my to-do list and look at it later. I'm sure there will be more posts on this matter

Don

[Smersh]

I can understand how having 2 T-62Ms can be confusing but this is done with the T-55s. Ex. In the East German OBB there are 3 different T-55As.

But the current T-62M (unit 18) if it were called a T-62A, the more common designation. Will make it more clear, so people don't confuse it with the true T-62M which adds a laser rangefinder. Instead of the T-62A which adds a 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft maching gun.

The other point is that currently the T-62 uses a completely different designation scheme then then the T-54/55/64/72.

Anyone with more information on T-62 variants?

[Marek_Tucan]

Soviet tank designations are a terrible mess, esp. when locals come into play as well
Just to illustrate this, Czechoslovakian T-72's:
T-72 Obiekt 172M-E (first batch delivered from Soviet union) - really called T-72. So far so good.
T-72M Obiekt 172M-E2 (T-72's manufactured here, already have T-72A/M front hull, laser RF, but lack skirts and smoke greandes - mostly) - really called T-72 by our army
T-72M Obiekt 172M-E4 (later batch with 44rds ammo storage, all have skirts and smoke grenades) - called T-72M in our army
T-72M1 Obiekt 172M-E5(classic T-72M1, nothing to see here, move along) - called T-72M1 AS WELL AS T-72M by our army
T-72M4 (T-72M1 upgrade) - called T-72M4, no problem here, except army of course (see above) often stating it is modernisation of T-72M

Guess with T-62's and all other T's it's similar

[Smersh]

It is all a mess.

[DRG]

Smersh said:
It is all a mess.

Exactly. I'm generally happy with "close enough" becasue there will always be someone with different information. If it was easy, it wouldn't have been a point for discussion for as long as we've been working on the game. I put your info about the T-62 on the list

Don