Wish Questions

incognito · #1 November 21st, 2005, 11:38 PM

Got a couple of questions about wish and could not find answers on the board earlier.

Can you wish for a summoned creature by name? For instance, in my SP game as Man, I'd like to wish for Pazuzu for the heck of it. Normally, he requires 7B which I don't have... To my knowledge, no one else has summoned him.

If someone has summoned Pazuzu or any other named creature, and I wish for him, will he come with normal magic skills? I seem to have read that wishing for units in this fashion delivers them without leadership and magic. Is this true?

Generally speaking, what are the most effective uses of wish? I know you can wish for gems, etc, but I am guessing strategic use of wish can be a real asset.

Thanks,
L

Wish · #2 November 22nd, 2005, 01:14 PM

you can't wish for pazuzu specifically, but you can wish for what he is. For instance I have wished for another queen of elemental air when I already had them all summoned, And I got an extra one. Yes they show up as a unit and not as a leader, so you have to cast gift of reason on them. When you do cast gift of reason, they will become a leader with all their inherent magic skills.

I have found that wishing for power, provinces, and dominion have interesting effects. I usually end up wishing for ettins (I can't figure out why it doesn't accept ettin monragora) or natarajas... then throwing gift of reason on them and equiping the living snot out of them.

I wished for an immortal once, and got the one that heals units. That was cool.

quantum_mechani · #3 November 22nd, 2005, 04:25 PM

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Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
(I can't figure out why it doesn't accept ettin monragora)

I might try mandragora.

shovah · #4 November 22nd, 2005, 07:42 PM

actually i think its mandragora ettin, not ettin mandragora. but i cant remember (never wish for a dragon cause without gift of reason he will come in sage form) i also wished for an aboleth once and i got it but its not that good anyway so..... try wishing for items suck as precious or greenstone armour from the troll raider or one of my personal favourite helms (if u already have amon hotem) the sun helm

Wish · #5 November 22nd, 2005, 10:12 PM

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shovah said:
actually i think its mandragora ettin, not ettin mandragora. but i cant remember

neither work

and, save for quantum_mechani, I think we all have the critical reading skills to recognize a simple typo when we see one.

shovah · #6 November 23rd, 2005, 03:12 PM

ETTIN MANDRAGORA. it works and ive just tried it. you should make sure: you spell it right, it DOES appear as a unit not a commander and make sure your not underwater

PvK · #7 November 24th, 2005, 07:42 PM

It might be nice if Wish had a somewhat variable cost based on what you wish for.

And/or, make it so that wishing for something generally hostile, like a devil or especially a Horror, would sometimes (or always) result in one showing up that was not obedient, but attacked either the province or the caster.

After all, a common theme of wishes in literature is to be careful what you wish for, and sometimes, that whatever you wish for, often ends up having unintended side-effects that make you wish you hadn't wished for whatever it was.

PvK

Valandil · #8 December 6th, 2005, 12:37 AM

If you wish for "death" or "nothing" it isn't exactly good.

And ettin mandragora does work.

Wish · #9 December 6th, 2005, 03:46 AM

i was mispelling it.

PsiSoldier · #10 December 26th, 2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PvK

It might be nice if Wish had a somewhat variable cost based on what you wish for.

And/or, make it so that wishing for something generally hostile, like a devil or especially a Horror, would sometimes (or always) result in one showing up that was not obedient, but attacked either the province or the caster.

After all, a common theme of wishes in literature is to be careful what you wish for, and sometimes, that whatever you wish for, often ends up having unintended side-effects that make you wish you hadn't wished for whatever it was.

PvK

I would say that that would be good based on the power of your commander or Pretender that did the wishing. For example if your Pretender is a Master Lich like mine in Hellscape with 65 Magic Paths a 100+ Hitpoints like 45 Strength 30 Precision a ton of Defense and Attack and eats Doom Horrors for breakfast then whatever you wish for will so Oh crap I'd better serve this guy the best I can or he's gonna smack my *** down.

But if its just some weakling that is barely able to cast wish then maybe a chance that they say "who does this fool think he is summoning me here I'm gonna teach this guy a lesson" might fit the bill.

But honestly I dont really see any reason to do all that. Its fine just as it is. But if they did make it so that there was a chance they would attack then thats how I'd do it.