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Old November 20th, 2000, 09:31 AM

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Default Borders and Politics do not work

Well after trying game after game I have not seen the AI respect borders at all. If you demand them to leave your space they say they will and then hang around turn after turn. Ask one computer player to goto war with another computer player and he says yes, check the Treaty Grid and hes still in a trade agrement with the other AI player. Most of the Demand/Request/Warn Messages do not work.
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Old November 20th, 2000, 06:09 PM

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Default Re: Borders and Politics do not work

I noticed something similar. I asked a partner to declare war. He did. I then asked him to attack the enemy in a particular sector. He said he would and never showed up.

Talk about holding a keg party and he was supposed to bring the keg!
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Old November 21st, 2000, 12:27 AM

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Default Re: Borders and Politics do not work

I agree the a.i needs some work in certain areas,i hope the upcoming patch deals with the a.i flaws rather than anything else.
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Old November 21st, 2000, 03:13 AM

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Default Re: Borders and Politics do not work

I second that, subjugation is useless, I deninate then for one turn then have to kill there treaty breaking asses.

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Old November 21st, 2000, 04:07 AM

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Default Re: Borders and Politics do not work

The diplomatic AI is wonked Everyone is friendly at first (with a few raids at first I might add - which seems realistic to me). However, I've had races ask for alliances and then three turns later start disliking, then hating me, and finally declaring war in less than a dozen turns. And I've done nothing to them - not raided them, spied against them, or even trespassed into their space. I think their dislike appears to be tied both to my progress, their lack of expansion room, or my small fleet. Nevertheless, this is pretty unrealistic and frustrating. It sort of takes the role playing out when the aliens act to erratically. This needs to be tweaked.

Also, in my Last game, all aliens hated me rather quickly. I was whipping two races rather easily, and each time, as soon as I met another race, within half a dozen turns, they were declaring war on me and again, I had done nothing to earn that enmity. Again, it seemed to be tied to my progress, not anything I had done. Obviously, if I am dominating, the AIs will gang up - I expect that - but not so blatantly - it needs to be a more measured response.

Another thing, I was beating up on race Y, the archenemy of race X, who had been warning me of race Y for several years. Yet X refused to help me against their archenemy when I asked and declared war soon on me! That makes no sense at all.

I'd also like to suggest that when a treaty of any type is signed, it is signed for "X" number of years, and cannot be broken by either side. Then even if the alien starts to hate me, I can rest assured that I have "X" years to prepare myself. That's one thought, and as I remember it, in MOO, when you signed a peace treaty with an enemy you did have about 10 years to prepare yourself when they could go back against it.

The diplomatic AI is the most disappointing thing about an otherwise great game.

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Old November 21st, 2000, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: Borders and Politics do not work

As a feature to make the game more difficult, the AI's are set to turn against a player (or another AI) when that player's score excedes everyone else's (> 150% of their score), and the player's score is above a certain amount (500K).

The behavior I've seen with this is I can have a great relationship with some race, despite having double their score, but then my score goes over 500K, and within a few turns the race turns hostile. Other races I then meet thereafter start out OK, but also turn hostile within a few turns.

You can turn this feature off with the "AI Uses Evil Empire" setting in Settings.txt, or use change change the numbers to adjust it
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