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Old December 10th, 2003, 06:53 AM
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Which ops are shown in enemy log? All?
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Default Re: Intelligence ops

In the vanilla game I seem to recall few projects actually show who is responsible. (Puppet Politicals Parties and Crew Insurrection will, obviously, show who is acting) However, you will be caught if the project fails, which happens more often than not. But you may be speaking of a mod if you are referring to a certain game, so I cannot speak for this peculiar situation.
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Yes, all intel projects should be reported to the victim because it's a major game event when millions of people are poisoned or a bomb explodes in the cargo hold of a ship. If they aren't reported, it's a bug. What is not always reported is the originator of the attack. Sometimes it says "We suspect the [empire name] of this [negative adjective] act." and other times it just baldly reports the event without telling you who did it.

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Yes, in the default game, the target gets the Messages following:

"Num Target Messages := 1"

in Intelprojects.txt

The exception is that on the Communications Mimic, only the "Target" gets the message, not the "Other" empire. The "Other" empire just gets a message about the broken treaty, but he doesn't know that it was from an intel project.


Now it is an entirely different issue if the Target empire knows who the attacker was. If the attack was successful, the attacker is only identified if the target message has the [%SourceEmpireName] identifier in it. Projects that are stopped by your CI are just indicated as "One of our intelligence projects against the [%SourceEmpireName] was defeated by counter-intelligence defenses." but it doesn't say what the exact attack (or number of points) was.

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I was quite unclear. As you guessed I meant when the target empire knows who was behind the op. It seems the target gets the info about attacker every time a project fails, so it's not wise to check if your ally has CI on not.
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Default Re: Intelligence ops

Here's a related question: does an intel project (say food contamination) get a negative to its chance of success if the target is "any planet" - as compared to setting a known target?

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