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April 21st, 2018, 11:56 AM
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Sd.Kfz. 9
A little project that started on a whim and a photo and spun a bit out of control. It has limited use in the game beyond a curiosity and decoration in a scenario. But I did learn a couple of new techniques I can apply elsewhere. I MIGHT add a couple to the game but not 32 (!)....but they did build 2500 of them. Thinking more and more I may use these for the "barge carrier".
The Churchill is there as a size comparison. The FAMO is a big vehicle 8.32 metres long
These are 200% of normal so if anyone wants to add one to a personal SHP file they need to be pixel resized to 50% then converted to BMP format
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April 21st, 2018, 03:17 PM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
no picture?
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April 21st, 2018, 05:54 PM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
I see it OK.....this is the same thing that happened when I posted the patch info.... I will fix this now.......
..Are they OK for you now ?
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April 21st, 2018, 07:30 PM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
Yes thanks - see them now
To add:
Look great! could add as Heavy Transport :P - a great deal of the photos I have seen of the "famo" show it towing / recovering tanks and other heavy vehicles (even when it took 2 to pull a tiger!).
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April 21st, 2018, 09:47 PM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
We have other plans for that unitclass
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April 21st, 2018, 11:33 PM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
These were built "just for fun".....
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April 22nd, 2018, 07:12 AM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
WW1 Mark V tanks??? Really?
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April 22nd, 2018, 08:41 AM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
I was just " doodling" over morning coffee one day and that's what resulted. I'm slowly building a Vimy Ridge map from Venola Contours so I was in a "WW1" frame of mind.
There's a story that the last known use of Mk Vs were former Estonian Composites dug in along the Pirita River by the Russians in August 1941 as stationary gun platforms. The problem is the game is not set up to handle sponson guns so even if I did add it to the files ( which I might "just for fun..." )...it would have to be a kludge as it;s neither turreted as the game understands turreted and it's not really an SP gun as the game understand SP guns so however it was put in would not be a satisfactory solution and we are not writing new code to make a single Icon that has no serious place in the game work. The "best" idea I've had for it would be as an invisible turret Icon but no matter how it's put in something ends up being at odds with reality
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April 28th, 2018, 11:30 AM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
I just add something about WWI vehicles still used in 30's.
Tsarist Russia was one of the biggest adopters of armoured cars in times of WWI this cars goes mostly in hands of White and Red's during civil war. Some of them were captured by Germans and newly created states on ashes of Rusian empire like Poland, Estonia or Latvia.
Garford-Putilov
Heavy armoured car soviet cars were used into late 20's and dismantled. But Latvia have three of them and were captured by soviet during annexation in 1940. They were used in 1941 probably around Riga. Poland also captured 2 of them during war with soviets in 1920. They were used until 1927 and finally dismantled in 1930.
Garford-Putilov google translated to english
Austin / Austin-Putilovets
Russian license build British Austin armoured cars. This vehicle is already in polish OOB available between 1930-1931. Both versions English imported Austin I until Austin III and Russian build Austin-Putilovets. All captured from Soviets during war in 1920.
Soviets have 73 of them until 1931 in regular army units, 40 of them English build versions. Like in Poland they remove them in 1931-1933 and relegate to second line units. They were in NKVD internal troops rebuild on new ZIS chasis and participated in fights in 1941. They were also some captured by Estonian during their war for independence and later recaptured again in 1940 by soviets.
Austin / Austin-Putilovets
Fiat-Izhorski
Existing also in polish OOB similar in aparence to Austin. Red army used them until end of 1930 and then were transferred to school units as a training cars. Soviets have 47 units. Poland captured on of them and after 1931 was on static display in Modlin as a monument there captured by Germans. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania have also them and after incorporations of their states were back again in Red Army. There they were used during fights of 1941 and probably all lost.
Fiat-Izhorski
Austin-Kegresse
Vehicle with halftrack mechanism of French engineer who was chief of Tsar vehicles garage during WWI. They were produced and used by Red Army during Civil-war in 1919. Used until 1933 when last four vehicles where dismantled. Poland captured two examples and also used them quite long until 1931. One became a monument in Modlin fortress and was captured by Germans. This vehicle is also modeled in polish OOB.
Austin-Kegresse
And there is the link to page with describe what happens with this post civil-war MK.V captured in Russia. His fate during fights in Berlin.
http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/MK_V/Mk_V.htm
http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/MK_V/Mk_V-2.html
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April 29th, 2018, 06:37 PM
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 9
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Originally Posted by blazejos
Austin / Austin-Putilovets
Russian license build British Austin armoured cars. This vehicle is already in polish OOB available between 1930-1931. Both versions English imported Austin I until Austin III and Russian build Austin-Putilovets. All captured from Soviets during war in 1920.
Soviets have 73 of them until 1931 in regular army units, 40 of them English build versions. Like in Poland they remove them in 1931-1933 and relegate to second line units. They were in NKVD internal troops rebuild on new ZIS chasis and participated in fights in 1941.
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This info is sometimes repeated in the net, but I haven't found info on their service in 1941 in Russian printed sources so far. However, it's worth to copy them from Polish OOB to Soviet early inventory (one generic Austin with transverse turrets, Austin-Putilov with diagonal turrets and Austin-Kegresse should be enough).
Here's an old page on Austin variants and service: http://derela.republika.pl/austin.htm
Austins in foreign service weren't numerous, but some were used by Japan, reportedly by Manchukuo. They were also used for some time by the British (put on Peerless chassis eventually).
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