Minesweepers

Weson102 · #1 March 21st, 2001, 07:05 PM

I'm playing Version 1.30 with TDM 1.61 mod.
My mine sweeper blows up after entering a mine field. It removes some of the mines but then is destroyed.

I don't remember having this happen before.
Didn't the minesweeper remove mines according to the component makeup of the ship, it may take several turns to clear the field, but the ship wasn't destroyed.

Or am I just losing my mind.

Nitram Draw · #2 March 21st, 2001, 07:09 PM

I think if the minesweeper doesn't remove all the mines then it gets attacked by them. If it can't take the damage then it will be destroyed.

Alpha Kodiak · #3 March 21st, 2001, 07:24 PM

In my experience with previous Versions (back to 1.19) if a minesweeper failed to sweep all of the mines in the turn it entered the field then it got hit by the mines.

Master Belisarius · #4 March 21st, 2001, 07:49 PM

The minesweepers are working.
The question should be that was a large mine field, then, after clean the mines that can (depending the type and quantity of the mine sweeper devices into the ship), the ship take damage like any ship.

I saw a problem when the AI player manage the minesweepers: if the minesweeper have sucess cleaning the minefield, stay there, without come back to a safe place, then, usually is destroyed by others ships after some time.
I suggested to Aaron, to include mniesweepers into the fleets, because the more common reason for the AI to lose a fleet (including wars between AIs), are the mines.

Sinapus · #5 March 23rd, 2001, 05:02 PM

The AI should also stop sending ships to places where a minefield has been encountered until the minesweepers clear it.

Sure, 20 ships w/o minesweepers will "sweep" mines in their own, but very much slower than 20 minesweepers could.

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Q · #6 March 23rd, 2001, 07:03 PM

I only can support your comments: minesweepers must be included in attack fleets! A lonely minesweeper is a very easy target and even cloaking is not a certain protection, because the sensors in SE IV are very powerful compared to SE III.