Interesting Site: Wheeled vs. Tracked AFV (US)

[Sewter]

I am not too sure on how this pertains to WinSPMBT (perhaps terrain movement costs), but it sure is interesting. Evidently, the author favors the M113. But it also goes into SLAT armor. There are burning vehicles on this site.

http://www.geocities.com/paratroop20...rykersfail.htm

[Backis]

THE ANSWER IS TO V-HULL SHAPE OUR M113 GAVIN LIGHT TRACKS WHICH WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF AND SUPPLY THEM TO OUR TROOPS NOT BUY EXPENSIVE, INFERIOR WHEELED TRUCKS, EVEN V-HULLED ONES.

Sparky alert. This guy is a known nutjob so beware.

His main objective is to immortalize himself by fooling people into thinking the M113 was ever called "Gavin", a moniker he himself invented...

[Sewter]

He seems a bit extreme. Is any of it true? ie: wheeled off-road becomes more likely to become stuck than tracks? I imagine that it has more to do with the weight of the vehicle. I love the picture of the 113's coming to the rescue! I have heard that the Stryker with SLAT armor is much heavier that it was supposed to be, and that it is top-heavy, as well. But I can not imagine that an old APC would fair any better.

[JaM]

M113 will be always better than Humwee or Stryker, israelis dont want strykers at all, as they know that in urban combat, wheel is a weakpoint.Sooner US army finds it, better...

[IanWilliams]

I've read most of Mr. "Gavins" stuff. He views the M113 as the be all, end all uber APC and the Stryker as the Ford Pinto of APCs.

A rational person would acknowledge that there are inherent tradeoffs between wheeled and tracked designs such as:

Fuel Use (most accounts I've read show the Stryker getting ~3X the mileage of a M113)

Noise signature (Tracks are loud)

Off road ability (Tracks are inherently superior)

Yada Yada Yada

That said his site does have some interesting ideas for playing AFV Dr. Frankenstein with MOBHack.

[Backis]

JaM said:
M113 will be always better than Humwee or Stryker, israelis dont want strykers at all, as they know that in urban combat, wheel is a weakpoint.Sooner US army finds it, better...

Better at what?

Peeling potatoes?

[JaM]

In everything, they are more versatile.Wheels are too limiting,you cant add too heavy armor without stressing suspension etc...In every aspect are tracked vehicles better in combat than wheeled.