.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 25th, 2003, 02:50 PM

teal teal is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: New York State
Posts: 112
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
teal is on a distinguished road
Default Boarding and Ramming Targets

Started a new game vs. the AI Last night and thought I would try out being a suicidal/psycho ramming race. This actual works much better than I thought it would. Problem is that the targets the ramming ships choose are just screwy. They always seem to pick the "strongest" ship and will go sailing off towards that ship even though it is slow and in the back of the opppenents fleet and will get chewed up and eaten for breakfast as it goes past the smaller ships in the oppenents fleet. I want my ramming ships to ram the nearest ship so that they can do some damage before getting blown out of space. I spent a long time screwing around with strategies, but it doesn't seem that anything you tell it to do in the *targeting* portion of the strategies will effect the target of the kamikaze attack. If you put a direct fire weapon on your ramming ship it will just fire at those little ships it passes on its way by... :| So is there any way to alter the targets of a ramming attack or am I just out of luck? A little bit of testing seems to reveal that boarding attacks are the same way.

Note: I always play simultaneus move/no tactical combat even vs. the AI.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 25th, 2003, 03:31 PM

dumbluck dumbluck is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: iola, ks, usa
Posts: 1,319
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dumbluck is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Boarding and Ramming Targets

Yes, and you were close.

In the strategies menu, under firing, you need to change the Targeting Priority. It generally defaults to something like Strongest, nearest, most damaged, has weapons or some such nonsense.
You need to change the Ramming strategy (or is it named Kamakazi?) to be something closer to Nearest, has weapons, strongest, most damaged. Of coarse, you can tailor it to your needs, but if you want to have them attack the nearest ships, then make sure the first entry is Nearest.

Also, check the newbie FAQ sticky thread, I'm sure there is a section in there about the strategies screen. Heck, I probably need to check it to refresh on some things!
__________________
dumbluck
CEO, Fortuitous Investments, Inc.
Author: The Belanai Story
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 25th, 2003, 04:11 PM

teal teal is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: New York State
Posts: 112
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
teal is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Boarding and Ramming Targets

Quote:
Originally posted by dumbluck:
Yes, and you were close.

In the strategies menu, under firing, you need to change the Targeting Priority. It generally defaults to something like Strongest, nearest, most damaged, has weapons or some such nonsense.
You need to change the Ramming strategy (or is it named Kamakazi?) to be something closer to Nearest, has weapons, strongest, most damaged. Of coarse, you can tailor it to your needs, but if you want to have them attack the nearest ships, then make sure the first entry is Nearest.

Also, check the newbie FAQ sticky thread, I'm sure there is a section in there about the strategies screen. Heck, I probably need to check it to refresh on some things!
I did that. The result was as I described. The ships continued to steam full spead ahead to the big ship in the back of the fleet. Ignoring the little ships in front of them even when their targeting priorities were set to "nearest, weakest, has weapons, etc." If I put a direct fire weapon on them then they would fire on these weaker ships as they past, but still ram the big ship in the back. I'm a bit confused by this myself...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 25th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Ruatha's Avatar

Ruatha Ruatha is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Linghem, Östergötland, Sweden
Posts: 2,255
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ruatha is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Boarding and Ramming Targets

If you where about to die, would you choose to go with a little bang taking out a small ship or would you aim for the biggest meanest ship, trying to make your dent in history?

I say that the ships of yours are run by people, who wants to remembered.
Sitting there at the helm they see their orders;
"Nearest / Nearest / Nearest / Nearest", - No way ! they exclaim and heads for the juicy target instead.

If you start writing songs about the crews of the ships that ram the small enemy ships you might see a difference. Try it!

[ May 25, 2003, 15:15: Message edited by: Ruatha ]
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 25th, 2003, 04:47 PM

dumbluck dumbluck is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: iola, ks, usa
Posts: 1,319
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dumbluck is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Boarding and Ramming Targets

Do you have the ramming ships in a fleet? If so, they will try to follow their fleet strategy instead of their ship strategy unless you marked them to break formation.

Generally speaking I mark all my strategies to have everything break formation. However, there are a few instances when this is a bad idea.

1)Capturing planets
2)if your attack ships have different speed Ratings, and this is NOT a WP battle.

Again, I suggest the Newbie FAQ.

[ May 25, 2003, 15:51: Message edited by: dumbluck ]
__________________
dumbluck
CEO, Fortuitous Investments, Inc.
Author: The Belanai Story
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old May 25th, 2003, 07:45 PM
Grandpa Kim's Avatar

Grandpa Kim Grandpa Kim is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 858
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Grandpa Kim is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Boarding and Ramming Targets

Quote:
Originally posted by dumbluck:
Generally speaking I mark all my strategies to have everything break formation. However, there are a few instances when this is a bad idea.

1)Capturing planets
Why is this a bad idea? I have my planet capture fleets break formation and it seems to work wonderfully.
__________________
Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, slag.

http://se4-gaming.net/
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.