.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > The Camo Workshop > WinSPMBT > Campaigns, Scenarios & Maps
Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old April 26th, 2009, 06:44 PM
hoplitis's Avatar

hoplitis hoplitis is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 261
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
hoplitis is on a distinguished road
Default Quantifying Waypoints

For those of you who have danced the sadomazochistic waypoint head-banging dance, the attached .zip archive maybe of some interest. It includes a .doc file and some test scenarios (used for presentation purposes not actuall gameplay).

Yes, yes, it's about waypoints and predictability (as per steaming hot ice cream )

Not for the novice (no need to get them disappointed!).

I apologize for my use of the english language, beforehand.

Expecting some feedback...
Attached Files
File Type: zip Quantifying Waypoints (Part A).zip (308.3 KB, 260 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old April 26th, 2009, 08:48 PM
Imp's Avatar

Imp Imp is offline
General
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Uk
Posts: 3,308
Thanks: 98
Thanked 602 Times in 476 Posts
Imp is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

Cheers for taking the time feedback later
err quite a bit later looks like some good stuff but will need time to digest.

Last edited by Imp; April 26th, 2009 at 09:02 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old April 27th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Pyros's Avatar

Pyros Pyros is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,668
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Pyros is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

I am glad that there are so talented people interested by the mechanism of way-points.
With the use of way-points an experienced PBEM player can create very challenging gaming conditions while designing a custom scenario.
What would be interesting is to work the way-point mechanism in conjunction with the reinforcement entry probability mechanism.

cheers
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old April 27th, 2009, 01:47 PM
hoplitis's Avatar

hoplitis hoplitis is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 261
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
hoplitis is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyros View Post
I am glad that there are so talented people interested by the mechanism of way-points.
Pyros, don't know if they're talented but they are ...brave,for sure!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyros View Post
...
What would be interesting is to work the way-point mechanism in conjunction with the reinforcement entry probability mechanism.

cheers
Can you give me a hint of what you have in mind exactly? (or generaly?)

Actually I have an idea about using fast units as reinforcements that can alter/influence the way all formations respond to their WP paths (especially to the WPs exerting speed control). Got you interested?

Last edited by hoplitis; April 27th, 2009 at 02:04 PM.. Reason: addition
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old April 27th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Suhiir's Avatar

Suhiir Suhiir is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 2,829
Thanks: 542
Thanked 797 Times in 602 Posts
Suhiir is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyros View Post
I am glad that there are so talented people interested by the mechanism of way-points.
With the use of way-points an experienced PBEM player can create very challenging gaming conditions while designing a custom scenario.
What would be interesting is to work the way-point mechanism in conjunction with the reinforcement entry probability mechanism.

cheers
I've done, or at least tried to do, just that.

I can get a delayed entry unit to follow way points. You know exactly when and where the unit will appear you can pile waypoints in it's first movement hex so that on it's arrival turn the "correct" waypoint will be in the first hex it enters and off it goes (most of the time).

No way I can think of to work that with reinforcement probability tho. Since you can't be sure which turn it will arrive you can't be certain which waypoint needs to be in it's first movement hex.
__________________
Suhiir - Wargame Junkie

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old April 28th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Imp's Avatar

Imp Imp is offline
General
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Uk
Posts: 3,308
Thanks: 98
Thanked 602 Times in 476 Posts
Imp is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

Quote:
What would be interesting is to work the way-point mechanism in conjunction with the reinforcement entry probability mechanism
The other problem with this is reinforcement probability is unit specific not formation specific. If the whole platoon turned up when the leader did it would be usefull but as it stands each unit checks individually & turns up on its own so the formation will be scatered across the map if the first to arrive moves off. Because of this always set to 100%.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old April 28th, 2009, 04:08 PM
hoplitis's Avatar

hoplitis hoplitis is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 261
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
hoplitis is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

Ok up to now I have this:
Tank platoon B (three tanks)
B0 is set as reinforcement in T5 (100%)
B1 is set as reinforcement in T5 (50%)
B2 is set as reinforcement in T5 (50%)

Additional WPs are used to buffer movement and keep units in place.

If B1 and B2 appear in T5, movement of the formation commences at T8 (they will remain in place for three turns). If B1 and B2 don't appear up until T12, then B0 will commence movement at that turn.

Now, is this what we're talking about?, because this is completely doable.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old May 25th, 2009, 03:17 PM
Skirmisher's Avatar

Skirmisher Skirmisher is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: United States
Posts: 919
Thanks: 26
Thanked 27 Times in 21 Posts
Skirmisher is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

RL ? Are you saying that what your doing here isn't real?

I think RL should be replaced with ML (Mundane Life)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old May 25th, 2009, 03:52 PM
Imp's Avatar

Imp Imp is offline
General
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Uk
Posts: 3,308
Thanks: 98
Thanked 602 Times in 476 Posts
Imp is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Quantifying Waypoints

Its on my to do list but same problem at present not finding a block of time to sit down with, couple of weeks & am hoping normality returns
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.