need help - game froze

mrscrogg · #1 July 27th, 2006, 07:16 PM

hello everybody ! Playing AT's STM 192.7.1 DE and having a great time of it until I hit maker 2426.8 . Tried to " creat a fleet " , hit icon and game and computer froze ! Restarted computer and game played different scenerios and everything worked fine until I tried to put a fleet together and same thing happened . Has anyone had this happen and if so how do I fix ? Thanks to anyone who can help - Alan

Suicide Junkie · #2 July 27th, 2006, 09:32 PM

It is known that the fleet names run out after a while, but to my knowledge the game has never locked up like that due to fleets.

Most players don't even run out of names in a typical game...
Are you repeatedly creating and disbanding fleets for some reason?

mrscrogg · #3 July 28th, 2006, 01:07 AM

Yes , I am in the process of putting small goups of ships together to guard warp points , protect some planets , do quick smash and bash attacks on neighboring systems and have small quick moblie forces in systems next to my enemies { and even my friends ! }

Suicide Junkie · #4 July 28th, 2006, 08:25 AM

If you are just pushing small groups around, you can Shift-Click the ships. This lets you give the orders to all of them at once, without bothering with a fleet.

In a simultaneous game, the only thing you really need fleets for is to share supplies. And to manage 50-300 ship battlegroups

Some things to try:
- Wait another turn before making your fleet
- Reuse pre-existing fleets
- If you've got vast numbers of small fleets already, disband one first.
- Send the savegame (and a link to the mod) to Aaron.

Q · #5 July 28th, 2006, 12:32 PM

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Suicide Junkie said:
In a simultaneous game, the only thing you really need fleets for is to share supplies. And to manage 50-300 ship battlegroups

Don't forget fleet training and experience!

I can vaguely remember that I had a similar problem with fleets quite a time ago. AFAIR I could not do anything with a certain fleet or the game would freeze. But that was only a problem with one specific fleet.

mrscrogg · #6 July 28th, 2006, 01:47 PM

Thanks everyone ! I'll try deleting some fleets and let you know how it works out

Parasite · #7 July 28th, 2006, 12:15 PM

My games also can lock up during fllet creation when there are too many fleets and you start with a high fleet name. I have found that if it starts to happen you can remove other unneeded fleets and then you can create some where needed.

I have not tested or troubleshoot the exact cause, but it has to do with number of fleets. Possibly also the starting fleet name and using a saved Empire file that had fleets created before it was saved.

The only workaround that I know of is saving before fleet creation when you know you are close to the limit or have had it lock up before in that game. Once locked I have never been able to get it to recover.

Parasite · #8 July 28th, 2006, 12:28 PM

My freezing happen in Stock. But I also have fleets for grouping ships during training. All ships with the same percentage get put into the same fleet. With three training areas in a big game that is 20 fleets just sitting there.

Fleets are also good for the +20% or more experience they give.

Parasite · #9 July 31st, 2006, 05:18 PM

When you save your Empire, it also saves something like the last used fleet name. When you start a new game and load in that empire, your fleet names no longer start out at "Alpha Fleet". I think my fleet names now start with "Alpha Bravo space space space Fleet". For the first fleet I make. :-( That is one reason I think it has this starting fleet also in the equation for when it locks up. Although I must admit that the number 64 sounds very suspicious. Even with Phoenix-D at 69 fleets. I think it might be a combo of several things.