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April 15th, 2008, 02:32 PM
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OT: Hostility in Forums
No, itīs not in the shrapnelforums... But in another one...
I registered in a forum about a game i like to play, with the objective of asking some members there about modding the game a little...
My question was very simple, i asked if it was possible to mod the single-player campaign of the game to add more missions... i had already read several posts in the forum and saw some people modding the missions themselves and was curious if it was possible to add more missions to the campaign...
To my surprise one of the Admins of the forum replied to my post saying: "It's probably safe to say it's out of your league, so just forget about it"...
I ignored the post (i donīt see the point in flame wars), but other member of the forum asked the admin why he was so hostile, and the admin replied that "I can tell by his post that he doesn't have what it takes."
Happily other forum members, while unable to answer if my modding objective was possible or not, indicated ways and files i should try to read and edit, even offering to help me if i could discover something in the way of what i wanted...
Now i question, if someone is an admin of a forum, should it not be he/her responsible to create an amiable ambient to the forum? I continue to ignore the flame war that was initiated in my behalf, as i already got the answer and help i asked for, but i find very sad that an admin that donīt know me (it was my first post), in answer to a perfect valid question starts by trying to offend myself...
I just hope that the said admin didnīt ban myself from the forum because of the flame war that was initiated... as i said iīm ignoring it and focusing in the technical question i asked, but iīm afraid that an admin that insults people without any reason could also ban forum members without any reason too...
Sorry about the rant people, i just wanted to share this experience, that i found very sad and puzzling...
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April 15th, 2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
Oh well i guess the admin was pretty stupid. People with an attitude like that should NOT become admins. Someone did broke #1 rule.
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April 15th, 2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
He wasn't reacting to you, Makinus. The Admin was stuck in his own head and reacting to whatever was going on in there. He "knew" the model he imagined of you was a certain way, but he didn't realize his model for you was way off. His problem, and yes you're right it'd be totally messed up if all admins did that all the time.
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April 15th, 2008, 07:36 PM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
Welcom 2 teh internets!
Sadly, far too many forums are flamy and hostile.
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April 16th, 2008, 12:27 AM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
IMO, the best response to something like that would be:
"Your cities will burn with vengful fire!"
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April 16th, 2008, 01:15 AM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
Well obviously he knew far more about all matters pertaining to the game than you. I mean, he was a forum admin! They don't just let anyone be a forum admin, you know. One must have played the game in question since beta at least, if not earlier, spend a majority of their time playing the game exploring every single facet of the game to gain an incomparable understanding of every possible way of doing everything in the game. A forum admin must have done everything there is to do in a game in every possible way, so that when they tell you the best way of doing something, you know it really is the very best, and only, way to do it.
A forum admin is also required to have a Masters degree in Psychology at least, so he can determine your exact psychological and mental capabilities by simply reading a few sentences, though a PhD to go along with his PhDs in Computer Science, Economics, Politics and Theology is preferable. A membership in Mensa is obviously a requirement, as well as a nymphomanic supermodel wife (who incidentally will also be a member of Mensa with several PhDs to her name, despite never leaving the bedroom for longer than it takes to eat and bathe).
Truly, forum admins are gods amongst men, and you should feel eternally grateful that one of these demi-gods was willing to sully himself by lowering himself to your level long enough to dignify your question with a response.
Throwing in a /sarcasm, just in case.
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April 16th, 2008, 02:36 AM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
Why, sarcasm? I never would have guessed!
* That was sarcasm.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:21 PM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
AgentZero, can you tell me why your sarcasm is so realistic that it's almost not funny?
Unfortunatly, not all admins are equal. This board enjoys some of the best that I've ever dealt with. AND to their credit I salute the time and effort they put forth toward making this a website that you'll want to continue to come to... [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon47.gif[/img]
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April 18th, 2008, 03:21 AM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
Quote:
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IMO, the best response to something like that would be:
"Your cities will burn with vengful fire!"
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That's too funny!
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April 19th, 2008, 02:40 AM
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Re: OT: Hostility in Forums
My $0.02 worth:
Caution, Long Rambling Rant
There is a sincere lack of etiquette when it comes to manors of people who use game forums. Cyber Nations forums are no exception either. The forum moderators are, for lack of a better term, fanatics and the members who post there are without, for the most part, kindness.
When the normal rules that govern our social behavior are removed, such as they are in forums, peoples natural tendency toward being socially polite and willing to discuss rationally, topics of interest, are put aside. The rationality of ones own limits are removed and well your free to say anything you want any way you want. That kind of aphrodisiac is far too powerful for most people to deal with thus all rules of adulthood go out the window and in this behavioral vacuum comes the thrill of freedom of unrestrained speech. You can say what you feel often times without having to worry about the consequences of your statements. Some people in life are to weak in the knees and are unable to express themselves in the real life work and find that when they are secure behind the anonymity of their monitor and key board, they can say what they really think, no matter how rude or twisted that message might be.
They get a rise out of pushing peoples buttons, calling people names, spouting off hate, and generally carrying on as if they are spoiled rotten little retards with no concept of proper decorum.
Often more than not, these people are childish adults who have one or more Psychiatric issues that limit their ability to function as normal social adults in real life. So these mentally challenged people find a new home, and often a new identity, on the internet, chat rooms, and forums where they harass people, push buttons, and generally carry on their anti-social behaviors.
They attack over every issue, spend countless hours on the internet looking for obscure web sites to back up their ridiculous points of view and are never willing to show the rational behavior of compromise when it has been proven that their point of view is, how shall I say this, misguided.
They are irrational, ill spoken, mean, of center, anti-social, mental morons who lack any semblance of normalcy. In most cases they are fringe hangers, zealots, and or socially challenged individuals who believe that they are sane while the rest of the world is insane. They hold true to warped ideals and beliefs and no amount of common sense or reason will ever be enough to enlighten their dark and twisted way of thinking. No matter what you do or say, they are die hardly committed to their own self deprecating way of thinking and they have nothing but disdain for any who challenge their way of thinking. In fact, they thrive upon attacking those who are not like minded to their confused and often bankrupted points of view.
The best method for dealing with such looser's is simply to ignore them, placate them, or if your up to it, challenge them and aggressively denounce everything they say and do as an act of ignorance, as in most cases it is.
When it comes to these kind of people, you can say the sky is blue and they will argue that it is not. You can show irrefutable proof that it is indeed blue, and they will not accept it, and will bury you in links to trivial, seldom visited web sites that support their ignorant views. Dispute their links and web sites, and they will flame you, attack you, and threaten you. Ultimately they will register 200 accounts and use them all to denounce you and your evidence.
They will spend every waking minute of their ground hog days dedicated to the singular goal of proving their point of view and will stop at nothing to either force you to accept it, or punish you for not accepting it. They are the worst of the worse when it comes to the internet and they all subscribers to their own self importance.
Give a fool attention, and that fool will do everything he can to keep getting your attention.
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