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Old February 6th, 2008, 05:03 PM

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Default \'tribal\' inspired nation

Why is their no tribal/native/indigenous animistic inspired nation?

Mictlan may be the closest thing, but they are obviously based on the advanced horticultural societies of S. and C. America. Gods of this time were beginning to move into the temples.

LA Atlantis also begins to touch upon a native type society, the Inuits. But they were a cold clime-maritime culture that required more rationalization of life than fits with a purely animistic culture.

There is no truly animistic culture represented among the Dom3 nations. One that would have a hunter/gather subsistence mode. There is _no way_ such a nation, in real life, could compete; which may lead to the ignoring of this flavor of cultural inspiration. But this is a _fantasy_ game after all; and besides Inuit/Northern American/Northern East Asian (LA Atlantis) weren't exactly doing any type of 4X activity.

I'd like to see an animistic culture; based perhaps off of Triobrand, New Guinea, or another S. Pacific Islander.

D&D released a 'barbarians handbook' with such an Islander inspired savage that used mostly crude daggers and spears, but had the ability to infuse their weapons with magic (by burying them in the sand for a period of time, no less). No missle weapons besides maybe the 'harpoon' or 'throwable spear', since nothing like a bow or sling would ever be required on a small island environment. Totem animals were octopi, lobster, or shallow water/coral reef inhabitants. A required coastal province starting position would be appropriate too. Water and nature magic, possible astral. Early age probably best time period.

Idiosyncrasies of Jungle tribes like Yanomamo are already touched upon by Mictlan. Temperate climate tribes like native N. Americans are a possibility, but their image has already been too distorted by popular culture and encroachment; there is to much temptation to give them 'horse tribe' type cavalry, when in fact they naturally never had such a thing.

Islander or native animistic African tribes seems like the best option for developing a mod nation like this.

With a bit of research and imagination, a great mod nation could be developed that touches upon a completely ignored, within Dom3 (and in real life too, to be honest) part of the human historical situation
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Old February 6th, 2008, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: \'tribal\' inspired nation

Machaka (MA) is pretty close.
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Default Re: \'tribal\' inspired nation

Mictlans are Maja/Aztecs
Machakas are Zulu
Some Independants are North American Tribals.
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Default Re: \'tribal\' inspired nation

You might want to check out the Haida Gwaii mod. (go to the mods forum, and the stickied mod list, and look for Haida Gwaii among the EA nations. ) I never played it myself, but from reading the nation thread it looks to be exactly what you're looking for.
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You might want to check out the Haida Gwaii mod. (go to the mods forum, and the stickied mod list, and look for Haida Gwaii among the EA nations. ) I never played it myself, but from reading the nation thread it looks to be exactly what you're looking for.
thanks, I'll check it out.
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Default Re: \'tribal\' inspired nation

There's no tribal nation, because the tribes haven't united. When the tribe gathers power, it will be assimilated by another culture, or it conquers it. Examples:

Horse Tribe -> LA Tien Barbarian Kings
Toad Tribe -> LA Mictlan
Jade Amazons -> EA Sauromatia
Jaguar and Lion tribe are not-yet-nation versions of EA Mictlan and MA Machaka

Bear Tribe/Barbarians - not really any spesific nation, but they could fulfill the role of two-handed weapon wielder available in most human nations. I mean, MA, Ulm axemen, Marignon twohanders, Man Wardens, Vanheim Skinshifters, Mictlan Moon Warriors - many choices.
Similarly, Deer Tribe isn't adopted into any spesific nation, although MA Eriu units bear some resemblance, what with swords being rare, javelins common and lack of bows.

Amazons don't have their own nation, but as mentioned above, EA Sauromatia has adopted local Jade Amazons.

I'm not sure if this answers your question, but here goes any way.
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I hadn't realized Machaka is inspired by Zulu. But I see it now.

Thinking more about the nations, Oceania is probably meant to reflect, in the most general way, some minor aspects of the Pacific Islanders. But they really can't do that region of culture justice with the Oceania nation.

Islander mythologies involve flying canoes, islands of (mischevious) women, winged people, and people with tails; very little of their mythology had to do with life under the sea. They also had (amazingly) tales relating to a northern people with ability to build wonderous things that the Islander people could only copy (amazing because to some people this is prophetic of Europeans; although this is kind of an arrogant eurocentric take on these myths).
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With a bit of research and imagination, a great mod nation could be developed that touches upon a completely ignored, within Dom3 (and in real life too, to be honest) part of the human historical situation
I look forward to a great mod from you
Here's a couple of tips though:
1) Use the modding manual in the /doc folder in your dominions3 directory.
2) I don't remember where, but somewhere in this forum there is a file that contains all of the sprites of all of the units in the game, it's pretty useful for the less artistically inclined of mod makers.
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