Long Range Wepons

evader · #1 September 8th, 2002, 11:20 PM

It was mentioned before about somone cutting themselves off by close all warp points and have a facilty to prevent warp point creation.

What about a wepons that can detroy entire systems from far away? Or the the abitly to use warp point creation to warp to a neighbor square the sending on the fleat from there.

Off course the yang(defense) for these would nee to be created as well

Any thoughts on this?

Ed Kolis · #2 September 9th, 2002, 12:45 AM

Good ideas, but those would have to be hardcoded in. As it stands, the only way to destroy a star is to move a star destroyer into the sector containing the star, and you can only open a warp point to a square that actually contains a system.

If you want to prevent the turtling strategy, however, simply remove the block warp points abilities from the system shield.

PvK · #3 September 9th, 2002, 01:01 AM

Hmm. How about random and intelligence events? Can they be used to destroy planets, stars, and/or open warp points even when a system grav shield is in place?

PvK

evader · #4 September 9th, 2002, 02:45 AM

Yes I relize that they would have to be hard coded in but I just wanted to open up a dialog on the subject to see if anyone liked it.

If enough people like then maybe in to be put in to SEV

Undertakr · #5 September 9th, 2002, 08:52 AM

I think intelligence (and it may work this way, I don't know) should allow for a percentage chance to capture any ship within the sector you can't see in when you choose to take any ship. This gives you a chance to get inside the system. I don't think there should be a way to directly go into a turtled sector. I think closing off warps is a fair strategy right now because once they make it so you can't get in, they can't get out. That's severly limiting, especially since they can't get out to defend their unprotected sectors and you start them all rioting. They will eventually have to come out of their shell.

- takr

Suicide Junkie · #6 September 9th, 2002, 04:22 PM

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I think closing off warps is a fair strategy right now because once they make it so you can't get in, they can't get out. That's severly limiting, especially since they can't get out to defend their unprotected sectors and you start them all rioting. They will eventually have to come out of their shell.

If they lock themselves into a small number of systems, they can stay there indefinitely.

The only thing that could possibly break the turtling is random events.
Even supernovae can be prevented by a Ring or Sphereworld, and if there are grav shield facilities on multiple planets in each system, earthquakes and planet core instabilities won't crack the shell either.
After thousands of turns, you might find that the turtled player's planets are all randomly destroyed (he can't rebuild since the ringworld uses up the star). I don't think ringworlds can be broken up by random events, though, so he could still sit there with ten grav shields and say he hasn't lost yet.