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June 5th, 2003, 06:47 PM
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POLL: Backstabbing
Not sure if this sort of poll has been done before, but I REALLY like doing polls...so...
Several (10) questions on "backstabbing":
(as always, comments invited)
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June 5th, 2003, 07:00 PM
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Re: POLL: Backstabbing
I just took the poll and I realize some of the questions are "yes, but..." sort of questions and I apologize. I guess it's just part of the many reasons people can have when they make a decision to turn around and attack.
So, some questions may be hard to answer.
For example, people may agree to be allied some sort of way for a set number of turns. When those turns have ended, I don't consider it "backstabbing" to attack the turn after.
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June 5th, 2003, 07:07 PM
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Re: POLL: Backstabbing
Well... I suppose you should explain more or less exactly what you mean with "backstabbing"...
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June 5th, 2003, 07:15 PM
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Re: POLL: Backstabbing
"Do you consider it permissable to "backstab" an ally whom you feel wronged you?"
IMHO this one is not actaully backstabbing at all. If the ally 'wronged' you then he is the backstabber.
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June 5th, 2003, 07:18 PM
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Re: POLL: Backstabbing
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Originally posted by Lisif Deoral:
Well... I suppose you should explain more or less exactly what you mean with "backstabbing"...
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I thought most people who played lots of games where you made alliances would understand but perhaps not...so...
When you ally with someone knowing that you will use that alliance to "learn" about their empire and then drop the alliance and attack...
Or...
Ally with someone just to sneak ships past their minefields or protected warp holes and then drop the alliance when you are past their defenses...
Or...
Use your alliance to learn about someone's empire and then feed all the ship locations (etc.) to another person to attack you.
I think you get the picture.
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June 5th, 2003, 07:25 PM
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Re: POLL: Backstabbing
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Originally posted by DavidG:
"Do you consider it permissable to "backstab" an ally whom you feel wronged you?"
IMHO this one is not actaully backstabbing at all. If the ally 'wronged' you then he is the backstabber.
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This is one of the grey areas that couldn't be explained well in the short span of the question. For that, I apologize.
Wronged....OK...
You are allied and your optics discover a stealth/cloaked ship from one of your alies deep in your territory. Is that being wronged? Should you drop the alliance immediately and begin an attack? Or should you tell him to leave? And should you consider this action hostile? After all, it was in stealth mode? SO, is that wronged?
OR...
Your ally colonizes planets in "your" space...Is that being wronged?
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Or, a big fleet enters "your" space. Is it headed to a destination that you can believe doesn't worry you? Did he give advance notice or just show up?
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Did you agree on gifts of tech and he doesn't fulfill his agreements?
So, without trying to list all the "grey" areas, there are many Versions of "wronged".
Which makes the question a bit ambiguous...(sorry).
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