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Old November 21st, 2003, 09:21 PM

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Default Summonable Blood magi commanders

What is the easiest one of these to get? A demon lord? Or is there another lower level 1. I only need the summon to have blood 1 and be a commander.

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Old November 21st, 2003, 09:34 PM

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Default Re: Summonable Blood magi commanders

Some summonable commanders have random magic picks, like the Spectral Mage. I couldn't come close to giving a comprehensive list of those, though.
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Old November 21st, 2003, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Summonable Blood magi commanders

Fallen Angel with Reacendance (Blood 3, Fire 3) at Blood 6.
Father Illearth (Blood 3, Earth 3) at Blood 7.
Vampier Lord with Curse of Blood (Blood 3, Death 3) at Blood 7.
Bind Heliophagus at Blood 8.

One of the Treelord has Nature 4, Blood 1 (Enchantment 7). It's theoretically possible .

I think that the Lamia Queen (Conjuration 6) has 2 death, 1 nature and 2 random in *sorcery*, i.e., one of the non-elemental magic. So, you should have a better luck drawing a blood slot for her.

Spectral mages (also Conjuration 6) also have two random slots but since they're *wizardary* and you might have elemetal picks, the chance of getting blood will be smaller.

Did I miss any?
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Default Re: Summonable Blood magi commanders

Hm, Heliophagi are, but then again you need to have blood 5 or 6 and 88 slaves to get them.

What magic are you strong in as far as the summons go? As trebuchet said, many summonable mages have random picks. Usually it tells you in description that they are "versed in many magic paths" or something like that.

A good bet would also be some indie mages with random picks, such as sages or jade amazons. Do you have any of those? Anythign that has ? for magic pick (and is not Arco mystic) has a chance to get blood, you just have to recruit enough of them to get one.
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Default Re: Summonable Blood magi commanders

I'm 3s across the board but 2 in air. I commit to a path only after I know I will have lots of that path's gems.

My conjuration is currently level 4. Blood level 2. No blood slaves currently owned. Nation doesn't have blood magicians or ? magicians.
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Default Re: Summonable Blood magi commanders

You have to expand rapidly at the start for this to be useful, but I found the Poger blood strategy useful:

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...4;t=000269;p=3

Just choose a sacrificial province of 5k+ (ideally 10k; I don't know exactly how population affects things, but 10k seems to be a good number). Mass produce scouts (20 gold, almost no resources) in every province that has them. Set the tax rate to zero, and have them all slave there... research construction up to level 4, and once you get 50 slaves (with 16 scouts, should take about 4 turns) empower a scout in blood, and have him start making Sanguine Dousing Rods. Every 50 slaves, empower anther scout and give him a rod... with maybe 4 scouts with rods and 12 without, you'll get a nice income.

Don't start this process too soon! Wait until you can sacrifice the blood province's gold income without hurting your ability to build a conventional army or recruit mages.

The first unit you empower in blood might be a national mage - that way, you get cross-path spells and constructions, like crossbreeding and the blood stone (or something like that, Earth and Blood).
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