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January 22nd, 2004, 11:10 PM
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God in the gate
Just started a new game as R'lyeh, and decided to try a new tactic in reguards to the Void Gate. I put a Kraken Pretender as my primary summoner hopeing that as a God he would have better luck summoning. Also, if he got killed they could call him back or use a ring of returning. Also if he went insane, his regenrative abilities would heal him so he could continue to summon.
-I was wondering if anyone has tried this with any success.
-Also, do Gods in the Gate have a good chance at summoning?
-And does every God get called back at the same rate, or do cheaper point Gods come back quicker. It only took me 5 turns with a few Starspawn to got the Kraken back.
BTW, this tactic has not gone very well so far. Turn 2, a horror attacked my God and after a long battle he was slain. The next turn my Starspawn summoned 3 Elder Things on his first try. So much for the all powerfull Kraken. Sigh...
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January 22nd, 2004, 11:24 PM
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Re: God in the gate
Bad idea. Only the R'lyeh priests have any real success with summoning. All other either go insane or get attacked. Or both. But you seem to have noticed this already. Most propably this is a safeguard to stop the summoning from giving R'lyeh a far too great edge.
Get that Kraken out into province hunting. It's a great Thug unit to hide your MindbLasting troops behind.
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January 23rd, 2004, 12:12 AM
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Re: God in the gate
Yeah, use Starspawn priests, or the Stargazer hero if you're willing to risk him. Safest approach might be to use an Astral-2 starspawn priest so he can cast Return (needs astral gems) and later on, prepare with Ritual of Returning. Defender acts first, and they can't kill you if you've already left.
God recall takes 40 points of accumulated priest level-turns.
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January 23rd, 2004, 12:20 AM
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Re: God in the gate
What doesn't make much sense is why the Void Lord and Lurker get attacked/go insane. Aren't they supposed to be native void creatures, and thus should be comfortable summoning there, and never go insane, even if they don't successfully summon anything?
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January 23rd, 2004, 12:38 AM
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Re: God in the gate
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Originally posted by Valin:
Just started a new game as R'lyeh, and decided to try a new tactic in reguards to the Void Gate. I put a Kraken Pretender as my primary summoner hopeing that as a God he would have better luck summoning. Also, if he got killed they could call him back or use a ring of returning. Also if he went insane, his regenrative abilities would heal him so he could continue to summon.
-I was wondering if anyone has tried this with any success.
-Also, do Gods in the Gate have a good chance at summoning?
-And does every God get called back at the same rate, or do cheaper point Gods come back quicker. It only took me 5 turns with a few Starspawn to got the Kraken back.
BTW, this tactic has not gone very well so far. Turn 2, a horror attacked my God and after a long battle he was slain. The next turn my Starspawn summoned 3 Elder Things on his first try. So much for the all powerfull Kraken. Sigh...
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, and in strange eons even death may die."
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Gods don't have any improved chance of summoning, battles in the gate don't get your home province dominion bonuses (IIRC), and gods have a high chance of insanity on every attempt (compared to Starspawn priests and Cthugul the Stargazer).
So, in short, don't use your god in the Void Gate. Use Starspawn priests (5% chance of insanity per attempt), or if you have him, Cthugul the Stargazer (2% per attempt).
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January 23rd, 2004, 10:46 PM
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Re: God in the gate
So anyone who has conquered and killed Ry'leh shouldn't be using the void gate???
That's too bad other races can't use an astral mage after killing Ry'leh.
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