forging items for 0 gems

tinkthank · #1 March 31st, 2004, 05:15 PM

Previous threads have indicated that item forging costs a minimum of at least 1 gem, no matter what bonuses are in play.
Well I dont have the best forgers around, but in an SP game, a Jade Sorceress of mine forged Rainbow Armor for 0 gems. I was pretty surprised, checked a few times.
The deal: Forge of the Ancients is up, she has Hammer of the Forge Lord equipped, and she is in a province with a 20 Construction bonus (Ancient Forge I think the site is called). Neither Air gems nor Nature gems are subtraced when she is given the order to forge.
I have not tested this systematically, so feel free to throw rocks at me.
Apologizes if this is old news, but I did search and turned up info to the contrary.

Wyatt Hebert · #2 March 31st, 2004, 08:15 PM

Well, let's do some analysis.

I may be wrong, but I do believe the formula is

Cost*(1-FB1)*(1-FB2)... etc... (round down)

So, you have 5*.5*.5*.8 (tho if that site is Construction bonus, it doesn't affect forging. There is a site for Forging bonus, tho, so I'll assume that's where you were.

That comes out to exactly 1.

So it should have cost 1 gem each. Now, if you had an inherent FB, that would drop it lower. However, my understanding of the process does not hold with your example.

I'll check more on my own, tho

Wyatt

DeathDaemon · #3 March 31st, 2004, 08:44 PM

Construction 20 bonus helped forging for me. 20->16 gems

Norfleet · #4 March 31st, 2004, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wyatt Hebert:
I may be wrong, but I do believe the formula is

Cost*(1-FB1)*(1-FB2)... etc... (round down)

That's wrong: The formula is actually Cost * Sum(FB).

So a hammer of the forge lords (FB 50), Ancient Forge(FB 20), and FOTA (half base cost), means that a 5 gem item will be reduced to a cost of 0, because costs are always rounded down.

Stormbinder · #5 April 1st, 2004, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeathDaemon:
Construction 20 bonus helped forging for me. 20->16 gems

I think the was a long fake thread about it already.

Construction bonus does not affect the gem price of forging AFAIK.

Norfleet · #6 April 1st, 2004, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
I think the was a long fake thread about it already.

Construction bonus does not affect the gem price of forging AFAIK.

No, you're thinking about Argitoth's thread where he claimed that Forge Bonus affects the cost of summoning Construction creatures.

Construction Bonus from sites in the province *DOES* affect the cost of forging items. It ALSO affects the cost of construction-school rituals.

Forge bonus, however, does NOT affect the cost of construction rituals.