Glamour and Siege!

Cohen · #1 May 23rd, 2004, 01:02 AM

I noticed glamour troops are invisible too when sieging.

I believe this should be changed, isn't assumed they're surrounding your castle when besieging?

Even if they assume a peasant aspect, I know they're enemies besieging my castle!!! And they shoulb be "fighting" every month to crack the entrance with ladders, battering ram, and so on ...

Norfleet · #2 May 23rd, 2004, 01:06 AM

Maybe they're sapping instead. That's why you can't see them, they're digging underground.

Cheezeninja · #3 May 23rd, 2004, 01:22 AM

I could still see glamour troops being invisible while besieging. All you know is that when your not looking your gate keeps getting worse, and troops you sally out dont come back.

Vynd · #4 May 23rd, 2004, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Cheezeninja:
I could still see glamour troops being invisible while besieging. All you know is that when your not looking your gate keeps getting worse, and troops you sally out dont come back.

Yeah! I like this. Sounds very appropriate for being under seige by the shapechangers/elves/Fair Folk/etc. Every time you turn around, someone else is dead. And you're not sure why, exactly. Pretty spooky...

Cohen · #5 May 23rd, 2004, 03:05 PM

I believe there should be very stupid commanders to not to keep guards on towers behind wall protection, to control the gate, and since you know the enemy forces has entered the province (you've a report that your 1 point of PD has been defeated and your castle is under siege).
The sieging army shoul stay in fron of the castle and surround it. I never ever saw a different siege (well exceptions are flying units that should be allowed to storm the first turn, but only the flying ones)

If you damage the gate of the castle they see it's damaged and repair.

This isn't an assassin that climb the castle walls, backstab some guards til the chamber of the victim and strike.
This is an armed group that should take a castle ...

[ May 23, 2004, 14:09: Message edited by: Cohen ]

Cheezeninja · #6 May 23rd, 2004, 04:51 PM

The whole way 'sieging' is done in dominions takes a little artistic liscense to make it viable in the game, as opposed to how it really went. In reality you could siege a castle without ever firing a shot, just plop your larger army outside and wait for the defenders to starve, or just bring some trebuchets or catapults and lob some rocks and diseased cattle over the wall. You could also immediately assault if you had the proper equipment (ladders, siege towers, etc..) With the battering of the gate happening during the actual assault, instead of being required for the assault. Its kind of implausible to assume any army can batter down ANY sort of gate without taking any losses whatsover, but for the sake of a non overly complex sieging system in the game it gets simplified alot. If anything, someone with a glamour would be better at sieging by virtue of the fact that they could walk in before the gates were shut, then simply overpower a few guards and open the gates when the army shows up.