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July 14th, 2005, 08:01 PM
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Level bombers
I tried an experience which conclusion can be interresting:
I take a battle opposing US to China.
US forces:
- 12 Level bomber carrying various bombs,
- 4 A-10 (for the fun)
Chinese forces:
- 2 MBT platoons (the last one, type-89 I think)
- 2 mechanised Co
-> US points were really under China points
I depployed Chineses on roads, as if it was a moving mechanised force...
at the end of the turn, there was only one surviving unit: a single MBT, all others were dead or derouted and useless...
A single blackhawk with a javelin team could "finish" the work...
Conclusion:
When playing on large maps, ennemy needs mechanised troops to go fast and will deploy them on road, just buy a spoting aircraft and let your planes destroy more points than they do cost to you...
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July 15th, 2005, 12:44 AM
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Re: Level bombers
Was this a scenario that you created? Were the Chinese moving when the airstrikes were deployed, and was there LOS during the airstrikes? This sounds like a very successful use of air power!
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July 15th, 2005, 04:42 AM
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Re: Level bombers
I agree - I've posted description of the battle exactly like that in "campain 2006" thread. Russia vs Poland - most of Poland armor was moving in tight group on the road. It seemas AI need more rendom factor in the force distribution. From the gripping hand I myself moving by the road in tight group in the assault scenario - it's the easiest way to clear path through the mines...
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July 15th, 2005, 08:26 AM
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Re: Level bombers
Some more informations:
The 12 bombers where:
-3 B-52 with AP-cluster bombs -> meca troops
-3 B-2 with 2000 kg bombs (BOUM)
-6 B-1 with 84 250kg bombs (each)
The 4 A-10 had each 4 mavericks
It was a scenario I created, there where no LOS from an observer, some of the bombers didn't hit any aim, Chineses wheren't moving since it was set before the first turn, when deploying...
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"On 17 January, I started with 39 tanks. After 38 days of aerial attacks, I had 32, but in less than 20 minutes with the M1A1,1 had zero." an Iraqi
battalion commander, after being captured by the 2nd Armored Cav Regiment, speeking to Col Don Holder.
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July 17th, 2005, 08:11 PM
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Re: Level bombers
Quote:
loktarr said:
Some more informations:
The 12 bombers where:
-3 B-52 with AP-cluster bombs -> meca troops
-3 B-2 with 2000 kg bombs (BOUM)
-6 B-1 with 84 250kg bombs (each)
The 4 A-10 had each 4 mavericks
It was a scenario I created, there where no LOS from an observer, some of the bombers didn't hit any aim, Chineses wheren't moving since it was set before the first turn, when deploying...
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And did the Chinese have any high-level SAMS or large AAA guns which could reach the bombers extra-high altitude?.
Try re-running bombers against Chinese with some Favorits for a more "interesting" bomb-run
Cheers
Andy
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July 18th, 2005, 06:15 AM
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Re: Level bombers
Would be interresting for sure, but depends a lot (in the "real" situation of a battle), of the number of flight allowed.
Once I got 11 !!! support missions, I was able to bought 3 SEAD flights more, but when you only got 3 flight, this sort of attack becomes useless...
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"On 17 January, I started with 39 tanks. After 38 days of aerial attacks, I had 32, but in less than 20 minutes with the M1A1,1 had zero." an Iraqi
battalion commander, after being captured by the 2nd Armored Cav Regiment, speeking to Col Don Holder.
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January 10th, 2007, 10:14 AM
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Re: Level bombers
I played a little battle recently where I bought two B52 with AP cluster...
They kinda culled the poor Iraqis in their bombing run killing between 30and 40 units each...
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