Question for those who were/are in the armed services...

[Trachmyr]

I'm redoing the tonnages in SE4, in order to make units/fighter/etc. more in line with their KT rating, I'm changing them to "forces" (i.e., a fighter squadron or a troop battalion).

My question is, how many tanks/mobile infantry are in a brigade/battalion/company/platton ...and what about fighters, is it similiar to groud forces, and how many is a squadron?

I'm not asking for precise numbers and ranges, just the "typical" amount give or take a bit.

Any help would be appreciated, thanx.

[pathfinder]

tank units: my data is a bit old (1970's TO & E) but goes like this: 5 tanks per platoon; 17 tanks per company, 54 (?) for Battalion, 155 (?) per brigade (tank pure).

relaize in reality these units get attached/cross-attached to infantry units and vice-versa...

also they had a few APC types in their HQ & Support companies...at least they did back when I got beat up by pig iron

seems to me later tank TO & E had 4 tanks per platoon but not sure...would lower numbers to company/battalion/brigade

[Marty Ward]

If my memory serves me I think an infantry platoon is about 50 men, a company about 150 and a battalion about 1200-1500 for the USA. 3 Battalions per regiment, 2-3 regiments per division depending on type, light, mountain, etc plus support units.

[Trachmyr]

Thank you both.... anyone know about figter Groups?

[pathfinder]

I am going on way back memory here: a fighter section/flight is about 4 aircraft with a squadron 12-15 (3-4 flights), a wing has 3-4 squadrons, so about 50-60 aircraft (?) ....

this is air force, not sure what the heck the Navy structure is...

[This message has been edited by pathfinder (edited 26 April 2001).]

[Barnacle Bill]

Soviet-style armies run 3 tank platoons, 3 platoons + command tank to make a company.

A USN carrier air group consists of 24 fighters (F-14), 34 strike aircraft (mostly F/A-18 nowadays, used to be A-6), 10 AWS aircraft (S-3), 6 ASW helicopters, 4 ECM (modified A-6), 4 radar (E-2C, kind of a pocket AWACS) and 4 tankers (KA-6D).

French carriers have 39 aircraft, types?

The above naval info is from a 1993 book, so it could have changed a bit.

I have a lot more data on WWII carrier air Groups. The split was between fighter, dive bombers & topredo bombers. I believe each type was organized as a single squadron. The total numbers per carrier went up throughout the war as they got more creative about packing 'em in, and the ratio of fighters to bombers was also steadily increasing. Just a sample:

At Midway, Enterprise carried 79 total - 27 ftr, 37 dbmr, 15 tbmr. Hornet had 69 total - 17 ftr, 38 dbmr, 14 tbmr. Yorktown had 75 - 25 ftr, 37 dbmr, 13 tbmr.

By the end of the war, Saratoga (Yorktown's sister ship) had 96 ftr, 15 each dbmr & tbmr).

On the other side, at Midway Kaga had 30 ftr, 23 dbmr, 30 tbmr. The other Japanese carriers at Midway carried 21 each type. Japanese carriers usually carried less than rated capacity (opposite of USN practice), which was about 90 for Akagi & Kaga, about 70 for Soryu & Hiryu, about 85 for Shokaku & Zuikaku. This is because of internal design problems of their carriers as well as less efficient folding wing designs than the US planes, and because they never adopted the US practice of storing aircraft on deck.



[This message has been edited by Barnacle Bill (edited 26 April 2001).]