How do I detect stealth armor?

[Kimball]

How do I detect a ship with stealth armor III? Do I need tachyon sensors AND hyper-optics? What level of each do I need to detect stealth armor III? Thank you.

[Baal]

I believe that all that you need is Tachyon Sensor I OR Hyper-Optics I to detect Stealth Armor III, since all the Stealth Armors are level 2 cloaking.

[Kimball]

Baal, you are correct. I ran a simulation with Stealth armor all you need is Hyper Optics or tachyon sensors. It appear that is true with a cloaking device as well, just one or the other of the appropriate level.

The cloaking device blocks em passive, em active, temporal, gravitic and psychic scans. If all it takes is hyper optics or tachyon sensors to see a cloaked ship, what good are the other cloaking methods?

[PsychoTechFreak]

Right, you just need to research ONE sensor type if you have the original setup (cloaking not modded). I don't recommend to research Tachyon Sensors, they are very expensive. The cheapest to research sensor is Hyper Optics. See also:
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/For...ML/002391.html

[Baal]

I think MM might have pondered the use of cloaks that have varying levels of cloaking for different things (Passive, Temporal, Active, etc.).

I was pondering it myself but I do not know how to make a cloak that cloaks different levels for different sensors.

[Dracus]

I think You can edit the components.txt and add different types of cloaks.
I.e.
Name := Cloaking Device I
Description := Field generated around a starship which passes all energy around the ship. This field has the effect of rendering the ship invisible.
Pic Num := 38
Tonnage Space Taken := 40
Tonnage Structure := 40
Cost Minerals := 1000
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 500
Vehicle Type := Ship\Base\Sat
Supply Amount Used := 100
Restrictions := None
General Group := Shields
Family := 26
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Cloaking
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 5
Ability 1 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 1 Descr := Prevents level 1 Active EM scans.
Ability 1 Val 1 := EM Active
Ability 1 Val 2 := 2
Ability 2 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 2 Descr := Prevents level 1 Passive EM scans.
Ability 2 Val 1 := EM Passive
Ability 2 Val 2 := 2
Ability 3 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 3 Descr := Prevents level 1 Psychic scans.
Ability 3 Val 1 := Psychic
Ability 3 Val 2 := 2
Ability 4 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 4 Descr := Prevents level 1 Gravitic scans.
Ability 4 Val 1 := Gravitic
Ability 4 Val 2 := 2
Ability 5 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 5 Descr := Prevents level 1 Temporal scans.
Ability 5 Val 1 := Temporal
Ability 5 Val 2 := 2
Weapon Type := None

Remove the ability and in theory to allow that type of scan, increase val 2 and you should be able to make cloaks that can not be detected at all.

Name := Cloaking Device I
Description := Field generated around a starship which passes all energy around the ship. This field has the effect of rendering the ship invisible.
Pic Num := 38
Tonnage Space Taken := 40
Tonnage Structure := 40
Cost Minerals := 1000
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 500
Vehicle Type := Ship\Base\Sat
Supply Amount Used := 100
Restrictions := None
General Group := Shields
Family := 26
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Cloaking
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 4
Ability 1 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 1 Descr := Prevents level 1 Active EM scans.
Ability 1 Val 1 := EM Active
Ability 1 Val 2 := 2
Ability 2 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 2 Descr := Prevents level 1 Passive EM scans.
Ability 2 Val 1 := EM Passive
Ability 2 Val 2 := 2
Ability 3 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 3 Descr := Prevents level 6 Psychic scans.
Ability 3 Val 1 := Psychic
Ability 3 Val 2 := 6
Ability 4 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 4 Descr := Prevents level 1 Gravitic scans.
Ability 4 Val 1 := Gravitic
Ability 4 Val 2 := 2
Weapon Type := None

I removed the temporal totally and increased the EM passive to level 6. So in theory, temporal can see the ship no matter what and Psychic can not unless you add a level 7 tech to psychic in the tech tree. Oh course this still needs to be tested ingame before I can be sure.

Hmm, I noticed the weapon type
Maybe I could even make a cloak that can cause some type of damage to other ships.


[This message has been edited by Dracus (edited 05 May 2001).]

[This message has been edited by Dracus (edited 05 May 2001).]