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				October 7th, 2006, 07:38 PM
			
			
			
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				 Few questions about finding items after battle 
 What are the chances of finding items on the battlefield on dead enemy commanders?
 Does it depends of the item? (more valuable - easer to spot maybe?)
 
 
 Does it depends on how many of your own commanders have survived the battle? (the more people looking - the better chances?) Do attributes of your surviving commanders matter?
 
 Can you still find the item if enemy commander fleed and died while retreating after the battle? What if it was idep provinse?
 
 So basically - what is the formula behind this event?
 
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				October 7th, 2006, 07:42 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
 IIRC the chance is only tied to item "power" -ie Cons level, it goes 20-40-60-80% for levels 0-2-4-6-8.Artifacts  (level 8) can be "lost" this way and then reforged.
 It works same with any indeps item.
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				October 7th, 2006, 07:59 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
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				October 7th, 2006, 08:57 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
 Ahh, I see, thank you. And how many commanders you have in the province after the battle does not matter, right? |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 7th, 2006, 11:51 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
 I thought unique items were guaranteed to be found? |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 7th, 2006, 11:54 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
 
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		| Fate said: I thought unique items were guaranteed to be found?
 
 |  No, they can be lost, though it is unlikely. Don't attack thug quality units with SCs loaded with artifacts. it can be... frustrating to see some of the most powerfull artifacts turned around and coming straight back at you...  
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		| Fate said: I thought unique items were guaranteed to be found?
 
 |  Unless things have changed a lot, there are two kinds of such items: artifacts that can be forged at level 8, and unique items found on special commanders like Solaris.
 
The latter kind requires Construction 12, so the odd of finding them is higher than 100%; I've yet to see one of those items disappear myself (except by lack of slots, of course). |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
 I think I've killed Solaris and ended up with only some of his equipment before. Finding trinkets and lesser items seems more likely than 20-40%, to me, though Arralen you said you did some tests on trinkets and only got them 20% of the time?
 I know you do have to catch and defeat the item-carriers before they leave the map.
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				October 8th, 2006, 08:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
 Speaking of Solaris in Dom I, I once scouted his province and went well out of my way to grab it.  I loaded his gear on a Knight -- who died of a single shortbow arrow while storming the Jotun castle.  It was all lost and I quit the game then and there. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Few questions about finding items after battle 
 Playing in my first non-demo game - I think I must have killed Solaris - I was playing on a large map with just one AI player - so that I could get to large scale playing - anyway I ended up with 4 items - Sun Sword, Sun Sheild, Sun Helmet and Sun Armor. Will post stats if anyone is interested.
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