Crew Insurrections - to powerful?

[Utrecht]

I am currently in a game where the Terran's have taken a rather significant disloke to me. Fortunately they are 2 clusters away from me - limiting contact between our empires.

However, I have stumble upon Crew Insurrection as a seeminly powerful strategy. For 50,000 Intellignce points (not difficult to get) I initiate a Crew Insurrection against (which has yet to fail after 20 times):

1) Any human ship entering my space (eliminating a potential raider)
2) Baring that take a random ship and instantly go into combat taking out about 1 other ships with me.

I have also used this technique to create my "zoo" where I cause insurrection on 1 colony ship for each race.

Based off of this experience here it seems that 50k for crew insurrection is to cheap/to powerful. Thoughts on this or have I just gotten lucky?

FYI: I am playing with DevnullMod v 1.31 so the perceived problem may be there or in baseline - have yet to determine

[Nitram Draw]

That is a very powerful project and probably either too successful or too cheap IMO.
The AI doesn't use Intel as good as a human player. I usually remove it from the game if I'm playing solo.
You could change the cost if you wanted, maybe make it 200k or higher. I wouldn't make it higher than the counter-intel 4 cost though or you could not counter it at all.

[Menschenfresser]

I sorta agree here. On one hand, i like to use it sparingly, but now that you mention it, I can see how a multiplayer game could, given the right set of players, devolve into a battle of intelligence...out of the trenches and into the offices, folks.

[PvK]

Ya, taking complete control/ownership of a military ship with intel ops sounds pretty hard to me.

I would suggest that it be given a chance to fail equal to say, 10% for every control system, crew quarters, or boarding/security component, and also add in the crew experience rating. So a cruiser with bridge, two crew quarters, a security team, and +20% skill rating would have a 60% chance of blocking takeover attempts. Larger ships would be harder to take over (more crew quarters), and players wishing harder-to-conquer ships could add appropriate components to their designs.

Master-computer-only ships would be easier to take over this way, which to me makes a lot of sense. I'd also remove their skill abilities, but then, I'd remove it for all purposes, too.

PvK

[Noble713]

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Originally posted by PvK:
I would suggest that it be given a chance to fail equal to say, 10% for every control system, crew quarters, or boarding/security component, and also add in the crew experience rating. So a cruiser with bridge, two crew quarters, a security team, and +20% skill rating would have a 60% chance of blocking takeover attempts. Larger ships would be harder to take over (more crew quarters), and players wishing harder-to-conquer ships could add appropriate components to their designs.

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Sounds good to me.

[Marty Ward]

It would be nice if there was a way to vary the approximate success rate for the intel projects. You could create races that were good at stealing or spying or mis-information.
The way it is now it is just a numbers game, if you have enough points built up you stop a project and if enough races are intelling you so that more than 12 projects hit you at once there is no defense. I have rarely seen a project fail on it's own, one that was not defeated by counter intel.
Hopefully Intel is on the list of future things to be improved.