Pershing Icon Set *DELETED*

oragus · #1 May 8th, 2007, 08:46 PM

Thought I would get rid of these, since they aren't correct. Check for Pershing Icons v2.0 for corrected ones.

DRG · #2 May 9th, 2007, 09:48 AM

Just curious Joe, What sources are you using for your hull dimensions?

Don

oragus · #3 May 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM

I believe I used the "M-26 In Action by Squadron Signal" for the dimensions on those icons? It was a new release when I did those icons. I checked when I uploaded them to the Yahoo site. It says July '05. Been a while since I did those.

But I just checked myself with my usual source book, because you asked me what I used, "The Greenhill Armoured Fighting Vehicles Data Book" and my icon may be a tad big.

M26 Medium (Pershing)

Hull length: 22'4" (6.80m)
Width" 11' 6" (3.50m)

That would put the hull at 44.6 round up 45 pixels long by
23 pixels wide. My current icon is 46 x 24. Close but not exact.

Joe

oragus · #4 May 9th, 2007, 10:41 AM

I know my old Pershings in the game now I submitted for MBT years ago are WAY WAY WAY outta scale. That was one of the ones I did prior to knowing about the 1:6 scale. You may or may not remember that. Remember the whole S tank episode. ( I know, I know, one of the many times we went rounds on different topics...LOL...) I submitted it and you asked me why it was so small? I was going off of just how they looked...LOL... Then you actually gave me the scale and dimensions for it and I was like WOW was I WAY off...LOL...No problems since then. MAN that was a while ago now...LOL...

DRG · #5 May 9th, 2007, 12:10 PM

The width for these things seems to be consistantly 11' 6" in all the sources I've checked but the lengths vary. There are the usual problems with "length" given as overall ( including gun overhang ) length but the sources I do find that give the hull length in the range of 6.33m - 6.51m ( 20.76 ft - 21.36 ft ) with another source giving the hull length of 21' 2"

This website http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m26pershing.html breaks things down even further giving a "Length without gun, with sandshields and pintle" of 249.1" ( 632.7cm ) = 20.76 ft. and "Width over sandshields" of 138.3" (351.3cm) = 11.525 ft.

The two line drawings I have when checked as a ratio of width to length is 1.8. Given that we know the width all sources seem to agree on is given to be 11'6" ( 23 pixels ) that would make the hull length for an Icon at this scale to be 42 pixels ( 21 ft ) so the original Icon at 22x39 pixels isn't really any further "off", dimension wise, than the new one at 46 x 24. The new one is prettier though

Don

oragus · #6 May 9th, 2007, 12:51 PM

Well, looks like another documented resource issue...LOL...what can we do...LOL...

The ultimate resource for anything remotely involved with the Patton development would be in "Patton A History of the American Medium Tank, by R.P. Hunnicutt". That guy puts insane amount of detail into his books. You name it its in there. Unfortunately, it comes at a heavy price. A new, if you can find one, is around $90.00, or least it was I was looking around it. I currently don't have the extra funds to drop on a book...

If anyone has this book on here, look up the dimensions at the back of the book for the M26 (T26E3). It will give us any thing we want to know.