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February 8th, 2008, 02:38 AM
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Venezuela OOB
Is there any plan or thought to add Venezuela to the OOB list?
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February 8th, 2008, 08:13 AM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
No plans to
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February 8th, 2008, 11:19 AM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
There are no plans to add any additional OOBs to the official list from what we've been told.
However, there are those of us who have been working on our own making OOBs. Venezuela was suggested to me, along with Colombia, and I had thought of trying to do Mexico myself. While a lot of work, if you're really interested you might want to investigate doing it yourself as well.
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February 9th, 2008, 01:05 PM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
Colombia and Venezeula have come to mind here too...
If you have extensive enough material to patch up a coherent OOB from 1946 to 2020, I for one wounld be interested in seeing that.
I think there are a number of people working on their own, non-standard OOBs here in any case; as far as I'm concerned I'm sticking with Morocco and Slovenia (with big lumps of salt on this one).
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February 11th, 2008, 09:16 AM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
For these nations mentioned, you surely know you can use+modify the 'Green' OOB (Latin America) and the 'Red' OOB for Eastern Europe-
About Slovenia, as you mentioned it: actually you will find the unique Slovenian 'Valuk' APCs (a version of the Steyr Pandur 1) in the current Red OOB so it's not that bad at all! Just keep modding it + publish it here to make it even better!
Of course it would be nice to have several additional countries but as you've been told, the game doesn't allow for that to be done. Morocco, Venezuela, Columbia would all be great to have, I fully agree.
Another idea: For those African nations that are missing, another idea would be to sacrifice an OOB of a smaller nation and use the slot to create a third 'regional' OOB just like red for europe/former USSR states + green for america... in WinSPWW2 you also got 3 such OOBs so that might be an option - what do you think?
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February 11th, 2008, 10:32 AM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
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Of course it would be nice to have several additional countries but as you've been told, the game doesn't allow for that to be done. Morocco, Venezuela, Columbia would all be great to have, I fully agree.
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I think its more safe to say that there's no intention to add more nations to game releases. The game's built in editor very much allows one to do almost anything. It would be very easy to find nations with base exp/morale ratings that seem appropriate and appropriate timelines (most Latin American nations are 1946-2020 which makes it easier). You just have to find nations that aren't important to you when you'd be playing in a a region.
This was house Laurent Touchard's Vietnam pack was, which I modeled mine after in format. There's multiple new OOBs in there including the from scratch created Lao and Philippine ones.
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February 14th, 2008, 03:59 PM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
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For these nations mentioned, you surely know you can use+modify the 'Green' OOB (Latin America) and the 'Red' OOB for Eastern Europe-
About Slovenia, as you mentioned it: actually you will find the unique Slovenian 'Valuk' APCs (a version of the Steyr Pandur 1) in the current Red OOB so it's not that bad at all! Just keep modding it + publish it here to make it even better!
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I'm talking ColdWar2020 oob sadly, nothing worth releasing for the heathens... 
I agree that in the real world Slovenia can be shoved in a corner of the Red or Croatian OOB, but I'm thinking of getting use of the Slovakian OOB. It's unlikely I'll need this one in the context, and the dates are pretty close.
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Another idea: For those African nations that are missing, another idea would be to sacrifice an OOB of a smaller nation and use the slot to create a third 'regional' OOB just like red for europe/former USSR states + green for america... in WinSPWW2 you also got 3 such OOBs so that might be an option - what do you think?
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My idea as well. Maybe even scrifice the OOB of a lesser African country of the desired area (central/western/equatorial Africa, have your pick) to expand it to a multinational stock OOB similar to Red or Green?
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March 3rd, 2008, 03:31 PM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
It seems befuddling that you are so flippant about the most explosive place on the planet right now??
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March 3rd, 2008, 04:15 PM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
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It seems befuddling that you are so flippant about the most explosive place on the planet right now??
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Flippant? This is a game. I'd say its hardly being flippant. I'd also say its hardly the most explosive place on the planet right now, seeing how interconnected the three countries (Ecuador, Colombia, and Venezuela) are. You'll notice that Correa hasn't suspended economic contacts with Colombia, and though Chavez keeps threatening too he hasn't either.
Right now its a lot of posturing, really for benefit of the larger political scene in the region. That largely has to do with the future of the region, differing views on contacts with the US, and Chavez's political ego, looking to become a serious regional political hegemon. That he has to deal with a major US ally so close no doubt irks him to no end. Its pretty obvious that whatever you think of FARC, Chavez is trying to undermine the more politically right leadership in Colombia. Its regional geopolitics at work, and I honestly think its a bit early to think that this kind of sabre rattling is actually going to lead to a war, especially with the European community and the US and their attitude toward FARC and Colombia.
On a more important level heh, I've been trying to track down sufficient information on Colombia and Venezuela for some time now, and its just not readily available. If it were, I'd have made these OOBs for sure. If people have the information I'd be happy to do the grunt work of putting the OOB together.
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April 12th, 2008, 09:51 AM
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Re: Venezuela OOB
Hmm I would be interested about Venezuela/Colombia/Mexico OOBs (if somebody could do them  )... And how about Dominican Rebublic OOB if there's already Haiti OOB (thatguy I suppose)?
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