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February 14th, 2008, 12:18 PM
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Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
Gentlemen,
It seems to me there is something in VISTA-SP1 that might render your WinSP:WW2/MBT games dysfunctional.
Please let me know if you have the same problems getting WinSP:WW2/MBT to work after patching your VISTA to Service Pack 1 level.
Source of VISTA SP1 RTM or formerly refresh 2 (build-string: 6001.longhorn_rtm. 080118-1840) are the Microsoft Update Servers after making use of the registry hack ( see here for details: http://winfuture.de/news,37331.html).
Both games hang during the intro screen and the program is aborted on PCs 1,2 and 3
After uninstalling VISTA-SP1 from both PC 1 and 2 and rolling back to pre-SP1 state (all patches up to 13/02/08) the games are working fine again. On PC 3 both games are hanging as they were before on PCs 1 and 2 with VISTA SP1. I´m not going to roll back this PC because I´m not gaming on it.
BTW: Everything else except both mentioned SP games runs perfectly flawless after switching to ServicePack-1, including SP1, SP2 etc via DOS-BOX. Because of this, I would love to know if someone is experiencing the same problems as I have. If so, once the problem is confirmed and isolated, Don and Andy hopefully can find a workaround for this little hickup.
cheers
Helge
Hardware:
1.) ASUS P5B-Deluxe Wifi MoBo (Intel 965 chipset), Core2Duo @ 3300Mhz, Nvidia 8800 GTS (640MB), 4 gig RAM, VISTA Ultimate x64 (switched back to pre-SP1)
2.) AMILO Notebook, AMD Turion TL-52 1600Mhz, ATI Radeon XPress 1100, 1 gig RAM, VISTA Ultimate x32 (switched back to pre-SP1)
3.) ASUS P5LD2 MoBo (Intel 945 chipset), Core2Duo @ 2666Mhz, Nvidia 7950 GT (512MB), 3 gig RAM, WISTA Ultimate x32 SP1 (WinSP:WW2/MBT dysfunctional)
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February 14th, 2008, 12:52 PM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
Helge
On the Game Options screen (if you can get there) - try setting Show Introduction = "No".
(if you cannot get to there, go into the /game data/Camogame.ini file and change the setting as follows, then try again:
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;Skip (0) or Show (1) the introductory splash movie
ShowIntro=0
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If everything runs OK - then Vista SP1 seems to have borked DirectShow ?. If so, then sound may also become a problem with Vista SP1 as well..
We are only using DirectShow to splash up a timed JPEG (we could have used it for intro movies but decided not to bloat the package size up way back, for something 99.99% of end users would simply skip). However DirectShow is also the basis for the games sound system, as unlike DirectPlay, it handles MP3 (and other non-WAV) file playback.
DirectShow has been part of the Microsoft DirectXX system since before DirectX7, so it should be stable. Probably a(nother) driver issue with the new version of Vista?.
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Andy
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February 15th, 2008, 04:54 AM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
Hi Andy,
thanks for the tipp. I checked it out on machine #3 and indeed disabling the intro did the trick.  So it seems they somehow modified directshow in servicepack 1 rendering the intro dysfunctional.
Over the weekend I´ll reinstall Vista-SP1 on machines 1 and 2 and check if disabling the intro there will have the same positive effect.
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Helge
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February 15th, 2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
Helge, did you disable the sound as well or just the intro ?
Don
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February 15th, 2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
Don,
I disabled just the Intro. Sound runs perfectly well.
Also, I now have reinstalled Servicepack 1 on both PC 1 and 2 and also there both WinSP:WW2/MBT run perfectly well in windowed mode (1600x1200 on PC 1, 1280x800 on PC 2 and 1280x1024 on PC 3). Drivers are 169.25 for both Nvidia cards on PC 1 and 3 and 8.2 for the ATI on PC 2.
Soundcards are Soundblaster X-Fi on PC 1, Realtek Onboard on PC 2 and Soundblaster Audigy on PC 3.
Everything seems to be fine now, except the Intro which kills the games on all PCs when Vista Servicepack 1 is installed.
cheers
Helge
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March 10th, 2008, 02:28 PM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
woo, thanks guys!
got me up and running again on my Notebook.. I assume it will work the same at home! excellent! I was going crazy!
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December 17th, 2008, 12:16 AM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
btw, new pc, Vista 64, quad core 9550, radeon 4870X2, and they run the game just fine, though just in case I have the intro disabled.
My only wish is, for something I will post elsewhere lol.
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December 17th, 2008, 03:29 PM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
Try it with the intro on once and see what happens
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December 17th, 2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
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Originally Posted by DRG
Try it with the intro on once and see what happens
Don
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crashes.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: winspmbt.exe
Application Version: 1.0.3.5
Application Timestamp: 00000000
Fault Module Name: quartz.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.6.6001.18063
Fault Module Timestamp: 4812e26d
Exception Code: c0000090
Exception Offset: 00099b22
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 5fba
Additional Information 2: b3e1f2122844d4e8d212ddae5bccb695
Additional Information 3: 6874
Additional Information 4: 42f60de55b5ca326eb05bdf47880f16c
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December 17th, 2008, 06:32 PM
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Re: Warning: VISTA-SP1 and WinSP:WW2/MBT problems!
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Originally Posted by Wdll
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRG
Try it with the intro on once and see what happens
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crashes.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: winspmbt.exe
Application Version: 1.0.3.5
Application Timestamp: 00000000
Fault Module Name: quartz.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.6.6001.18063
Fault Module Timestamp: 4812e26d
Exception Code: c0000090
Exception Offset: 00099b22
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 5fba
Additional Information 2: b3e1f2122844d4e8d212ddae5bccb695
Additional Information 3: 6874
Additional Information 4: 42f60de55b5ca326eb05bdf47880f16c
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quartz.dll (a part of Microsoft's own directshow it seems) has problems in Vista.
Try googling on "quartz.dll vista"
Cheers
Andy
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