AI and surrendering

[Oggy ben Doggy]

How do you get the AI to surrender? I've destryoed and Crew Insurgented all their ships, I'm blockading all their planets. I've tried anarchy Groups and glassing a few planets, but they keep defying me and warning me of a major offensive.

jerks.

[Master Belisarius]

If the AI will surrender or not, depend of some settings into the Politics.txt

For example the Pyrochette settings are:

Score Percent To Accept Demand your surrender := 6000
Will Accept From Friend Demand your surrender := False
Will Accept From Enemy Demand your surrender := True

The Pyrochette will surrender to enemies, but must have an score 6000% more than the Pyrochette! It mean than will be very difficult to see them surrending.

[Krakenup]

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Originally posted by Oggy ben Doggy:
How do you get the AI to surrender? I've destryoed and Crew Insurgented all their ships, I'm blockading all their planets. I've tried anarchy Groups and glassing a few planets, but they keep defying me and warning me of a major offensive.

jerks.

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It depends on the AI. Most standard AI's require that you have 10 times their score, but some require 20 or 50 times their score. Some of the TDM ModPack races will never surrender. As MB said, the settings are in the politics file. The minimum score for a race is the number of Tech levels times 200 plus 600 (automatic minimum resources, 200 of each). So once you have destroyed their ships and bases (not units) and blockaded all their planets, that's all you can do. Glassing planets doesn't help.

[Quikngruvn]

From personal experience, I've gotten better results by asking for surrender in a demanding tone than in a neutral tone. 'Course, that was with the stock AI's, not TDM.

Quikngruvn

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[Antonin]

Look at it this way: in RL wars, whether or not a nation will surrender doesn't follow any particular set of rules. It depends on the culture, the leader, the situation, etc.

I think that if the behaviour of the AI were completely predictable and logical---"I have X times its score, therefore it should surrender"--SEIV would be less fun as a game. I like the randomness of AI behaviour; to me, this makes it seem more human than most computer game AI.

Just my opinion.

[Master Belisarius]

I'm sorry Natsef-Amun... but the SE4 AI behavior to accept/reject surrender, is very predictable and logical. You only need to check the corresponding Politics.txt file!