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				Spell: Soul Vortex
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Does soul vortex drain life from undead?  Will it drain life from nearby friendlies?  
 
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				Re: Spell: Soul Vortex
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		No, if they are Lifeless. Yes. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: Spell: Soul Vortex
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Note: if you want to spam spells without a Communion, Soul Vortex is sometimes a good bet. Just surround your mage with a bunch of cheap militia or something and let him suck the life out of them with Soul Vortex. 
 
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		To clarify K's response, some undead have the "Lifeless" tag.  I just noticed it while looking at the Bog Mummy pretender.  I guess there are both Lifeless undead and "non-Lifeless" - and the Lifeless tag specifically states it grants immunity to spells like Drain life, Sleep, and Polymorph. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I also think soul vortex, unlike drain life, can be resisted. 
At least I have witnessed many times when my wraith lord did not get a boost from it though next to units that had life. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Note that Lifeless doesn't prevent you from taking damage from Drain Life/Soul Vortex/etc., it just means the enemy caster doesn't get back HP/FP from draining you. 
 
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		X is right that it does not seem to work 100%, but i'm not sure if it's a MR save or a weird variation in the area of effect, it sometimes appears that it does not hit all the adjacent squares. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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