#knownfeature and maps; aka "the Disappearing Act"

[Luckmann]

So, this is starting to annoy me somewhat and I could really use some help. Using #knownfeature on anything except a starting province appears completely random. Of course, things are rarely actually random, so if someone could explain it, that'd be great.

If I use #knownfeature on my home province, it works out great. I can put anything there, be it some underwater castle magic site or a forest in a barren - I always, 100% guarenteed, get whatever I try to get.

But when I do it to a province that's going to take a couple of turns to get to, it appears completely random. SOMETIMES, the magic site is there. SOMETIMES only 2/3 of the magic sites are there. SOMETIMES there's no magic sites at all.

Is there some system to this that I'm missing? I'm trying to make a custom map with a lot of pre-placed magic sites (i.e. if the map shows a building, cave, tower or pillar there, odds are that there'll be a cave/mine, tower/pillar or other magic site there - at least that's the goal).

What gives?

[Aezeal]

do the same provinces show each time or do some show all the time and some never..

post the lines of your provinces

[Endoperez]

Use #killfeatures first. Random sites are assigned first, and any #knownfeatures that are added after the fourth total site are ignored. If you get one of three #knownfeatures, the province already had three sites etc.

[Luckmann]

Endoperez said:
Use #killfeatures first. Random sites are assigned first, and any #knownfeatures that are added after the fourth total site are ignored. If you get one of three #knownfeatures, the province already had three sites etc.

Ah! Of course! Thanks, that will probably work!

Just one question, though; Will this prevent future random sites? Say that I do:

#setland 111
#killfeatures
#knownfeature "Howling Gorge"

Will this prevent me from finding future, random sites? Will I actually have to assign #feature to find something there, later?

Again, thanks.

[Ballbarian]

Yes. It will wipe out all of the random sites that would have been placed by the game, so #feature is what you would need to place some hidden sites for future discovery.

[Edratman]

You will also notice that the provinces where your #known feature was placed have 4 sites, which was what pushed it out.

[Luckmann]

Post the lines? Really, it's very straightforward, it's basicly:

#setland 109
#knownfeature "The Hidden Kingdom of Elludia"
#knownfeature "Totem Collection"

Last game, only Totem Collection showed up. The game before that, none of them.

Rinse and repeat with different setland # and knownfeatures. Like I said, this always work for my starting province, no matter what I put in it - but in other provinces, it appears to be random wheter or not they show up.

Another custom province is:

#setland 111
#knownfeature "Howling Gorge"
#knownfeature "Academy of High Magics"
#knownfeature "White Man Hill"
#poptype 34
#lab

One game, Howling Gorge and AoHM showed up just fine. Last game, only WMH showed up. This is incredibly annoying, since I have to play for an hour or so every time I want to see if this works out or not. And these are just two examples.