Off Topic: Mount and Blade review on Gamespot

[sector24]

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/mount...de/review.html

I figure some of you will be interested in seeing how the corporate machine treats the game.

[DonCorazon]

I was just looking at this game on Metacritic - what do people here think of it?

[JaghataiKhan]

Our Turkish Gaming pride will live in our hearts forever, regardless of what people say...

Although even the fat corporations respect the awesome combat system. As for the need of a storyline, apparently the average consumer WANTS to be fed a story. Imagine your own, console kids!

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by JaghataiKhan

Our Turkish Gaming pride will live in
As for the need of a storyline, apparently the average consumer WANTS to be fed a story. Imagine your own, console kids!

By the way I find this post ridiculous.

If you're that into imagination, why play a computer game at all? Imagine your own adventure! Pretending that the lack of story is a /feature/,.... wow.

As for the swipe at console gamers, I am principally a console gamer myself and I don't like your attitude.

[JaghataiKhan]

Originally Posted by Sombre

By the way I find this post ridiculous.

If you're that into imagination, why play a computer game at all? Imagine your own adventure! Pretending that the lack of story is a /feature/,.... wow.

As for the swipe at console gamers, I am principally a console gamer myself and I don't like your attitude.

You are free to like or dislike, but the Taleworlds always insisted that they intended a sandbox game, I forgot saying that. I have been in the forums all the time, talked to Armagan, the maker of the game and moderated the forums for a while. These game reviewers simply expect an Oblivion to fulfill their wishes, they measure the quality of a VW beetle amongst a race of Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

As for console games. They are merely button-mashing madness that have very little principle in the kernel of the design, but merely "make combos, strike the enemy before you get hit, avoid getting hit and slash" combat. Maybe it is me that grew up with intense details of Xcom series, Champion of Krynn,Simcity, playing Ports of call when 9 years old, spending hours to manage a transport company that may not be for a 9 year old. I resent consoles for that, as I every game I played from a console was same to me, Legacy of Kain,Devil May cry,Shinobi or God of War. Not to mention copycat hordes of Japanese RPG's with all look alike designs and all the flashy animations.

Not that I dislike Legacy of Kain's design, but the whole series was a boring grind of combos and jumps.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by JaghataiKhan

As for console games. They are merely button-mashing madness that have very little principle in the kernel of the design, but merely "make combos, strike the enemy before you get hit, avoid getting hit and slash" combat. Maybe it is me that grew up with intense details of Xcom series, Champion of Krynn,Simcity, playing Ports of call when 9 years old, spending hours to manage a transport company that may not be for a 9 year old. I resent consoles for that, as I every game I played from a console was same to me, Legacy of Kain,Devil May cry,Shinobi or God of War. Not to mention copycat hordes of Japanese RPG's with all look alike designs and all the flashy animations.

Not that I dislike Legacy of Kain's design, but the whole series was a boring grind of combos and jumps.

The games you mentioned are similar because they are all in the same genre. I would think that's obvious. It's like playing age of wonders, dom3, heroes of might and magic and warlords and saying all PC games have basic graphics, are turn based, contain zero action and have rubbish stories. The very first thing you said about them makes it pretty clear you have virtually no knowledge of console games and will continue making baseless generalisations. So I'm not going to argue with you.

[sum1lost]

Originally Posted by JaghataiKhan

You are free to like or dislike, but the Taleworlds always insisted that they intended a sandbox game, I forgot saying that. I have been in the forums all the time, talked to Armagan, the maker of the game and moderated the forums for a while. These game reviewers simply expect an Oblivion to fulfill their wishes, they measure the quality of a VW beetle amongst a race of Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

As for console games. They are merely button-mashing madness that have very little principle in the kernel of the design, but merely "make combos, strike the enemy before you get hit, avoid getting hit and slash" combat. Maybe it is me that grew up with intense details of Xcom series, Champion of Krynn,Simcity, playing Ports of call when 9 years old, spending hours to manage a transport company that may not be for a 9 year old. I resent consoles for that, as I every game I played from a console was same to me, Legacy of Kain,Devil May cry,Shinobi or God of War. Not to mention copycat hordes of Japanese RPG's with all look alike designs and all the flashy animations.

Not that I dislike Legacy of Kain's design, but the whole series was a boring grind of combos and jumps.

I lold. I used to frequent M&B forums, and you got banned from the forums repeatedly, not to mention losing your moderator privileges.

Originally Posted by Adept

Lies, the combat is awesome

I study European swordplay (the hand-and-half longsword), and M&B is the only game where swordplay actually feels like swordplay at all.

Also fighting from horseback is wicked cool, and no other game let's you do that. Maybe you have the AI setting on too low? Put realism to 100% and play in first person mode, it's a rush!

I've done my share of swordplay as well, (hand and half, heavy sabre, a little Iaido, and foil, though I've lately been doing collegiate fencing to the exclusion of the others (its simply better organized and easier to find matches.) M&B feels nothing like swordplay. Its completely composed of hard blocks rather than parries, for one, and the strikes are simply stupid.

I do, however, like the combat, as it can get fun with some role playing. I prefer the mods where you actually get some story/plot to go with it, so it feels like there is a point to smashing people with a falchion.

[Sombre]

It's an ok game. I don't get why people go so nuts over it when the ai is horrible and the combat system actually isn't deep at all. It mostly involves running backwards while timing basic swings.

I enjoyed the LOTR mod for it and played for several weeks. This was about a year ago, maybe more. I tried it again fairly recently and it has hardly changed.

[Adept]

Originally Posted by Sombre

It's an ok game. I don't get why people go so nuts over it when the ai is horrible and the combat system actually isn't deep at all. It mostly involves running backwards while timing basic swings.

Lies, the combat is awesome

I study European swordplay (the hand-and-half longsword), and M&B is the only game where swordplay actually feels like swordplay at all.

Also fighting from horseback is wicked cool, and no other game let's you do that. Maybe you have the AI setting on too low? Put realism to 100% and play in first person mode, it's a rush!

[PyroStock]

Originally Posted by Adept

Also fighting from horseback is wicked cool, and no other game let's you do that.

?

Two Worlds (so I would be surprised if the sequel/expansion didn't have it)
Sacred (so I would be surprised if Sacred2 didn't have it)
NWN1 (with patches/mods) (maybe NWN2?)

And those are all fairly old games now. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more I didn't know about.