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May 3rd, 2009, 07:13 AM
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the best ways to use US Army against Russia
hi alls!!
i'm newbie in MBT
i want to ask what are the best ways to use US units against Russia 2009 ( T-90,Uragan,Grad and other to too lower price )into ME games !!!
i see that many US units have high price
M1A2 abrams are good for short range ( SABOT ) but not very effective to long range against T-90 ( ERA cells,Reflerk )
MRLS are great artillery ( 155mm gun howitzer not good ) but they needs continue logistic support for ammo
bradley and many other mobile armour TOW are not good against T-90
the heavy ATGM infantry is very good but they needs APC to leave from fire point after the shot ( russian artillery is more cheap and hit half map )
USAF aircraft ( except B2 ) is not convenient because Russia has many AA syxtems too effective in MBT game ( SEAD and Strike action is too expensive and not very useful )
air support is important to US Army but AA weapons are too effective ( too for me )
i suggest to give greater importance to aircraft for a future patch
a question: where are the F14 of US Navy ?
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May 3rd, 2009, 07:37 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
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hi alls!!
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a question: where are the F14 of US Navy ?
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The F14 in 2009? How about driknking tea with the Spitfire? I is not in active duty anymore (I think). The Navy uses the F18s nowadays.
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May 3rd, 2009, 07:51 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
Use you gunships, Apaches were built to fight the soviet tanks. Just fly them low and carefuly.
Also your Javelins or TOW with Top Attack strikes. Fire once or twice then get the hell away from where you are to avoid getting killed.
If CM artillery is allowed, use them!
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May 3rd, 2009, 09:39 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
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Use you gunships, Apaches were built to fight the soviet tanks. Just fly them low and carefuly.
Also your Javelins or TOW with Top Attack strikes. Fire once or twice then get the hell away from where you are to avoid getting killed.
If CM artillery is allowed, use them!
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sure the apaches with Hellfire are very good but ZSU and other SAM are very cheap and are many on battle camp
infantry can hit near heli also
i seen heli escaped after same shot also
the Buratino can flame woods and Grad is powerful to suppression
javelin and TOWs are not effective on T90
Heavy infrantry ATGM can hit but they needs APC near after shot ( to fire russian artillery )
russian tanks have same AA syxtem
M1A2 haven't same thing and they needs SAM cover near
i think that US player must choose MRLS batteries or aircraft but air strikes not hits tanks when they see them during air passage
why aircraft not use rockets often? i seen aircrafts use main gun only °°
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May 3rd, 2009, 09:49 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
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why aircraft not use rockets often? i seen aircrafts use main gun only °°
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Probably have already used their main armament in a previus run ...
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May 3rd, 2009, 09:52 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
I would suggest you start smaller & learn some tactics.
Yes Bradleys need flank shots to kill T-90s a lot of stuff does, could be why they built them Abrams infantry & some transport to get them around are quite capable of dealing with but not an easy fight. If your tanks cant cut it use them to snipe or hit & run strip infantry support from tanks first then kill them.
The timeframe you are talking about Russian stuff is not cheap they have some very expensive stuff to. Troops APCs etc that cost more than yours
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May 3rd, 2009, 08:10 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
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a question: where are the F14 of US Navy ?
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The F14 was retired from active duty back in late 2006. As far as I know only the Iranians still use them.
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May 3rd, 2009, 09:56 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
Something tells me you are new to this game.
Use your Apaches from great distance. The enemy can't have complete view of the battlefield. The Apaches can go behind hill, sneak, fire and cover. Use trees, hills, buildings anything to take cover and you should be able to do it. I know it is possible, I do it all the time.
The only way for non manpad infantry to hit your gunships is if you are flying too close to it. Don't use your apache like an inf squad. Have it at least 40 hexes away from the enemy units.
Javelin and top attack tow can not be innefective against T-90. They are top attack missiles, most of the time they hit a tank, they will destroy it. I don't know how you see them as not effective against T-90.
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May 3rd, 2009, 10:27 AM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
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Something tells me you are new to this game.
Use your Apaches from great distance. The enemy can't have complete view of the battlefield. The Apaches can go behind hill, sneak, fire and cover. Use trees, hills, buildings anything to take cover and you should be able to do it. I know it is possible, I do it all the time.
The only way for non manpad infantry to hit your gunships is if you are flying too close to it. Don't use your apache like an inf squad. Have it at least 40 hexes away from the enemy units.
Javelin and top attack tow can not be innefective against T-90. They are top attack missiles, most of the time they hit a tank, they will destroy it. I don't know how you see them as not effective against T-90.
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sure but the random map for USvsRussia is russian terrain often, with not many obstacles views
i'm agree on use Heli behind hills, i'm tryng
i seen Javelin not destroy T90 to first hit and many TOW mobile are eneffective, ATGM M1045 or Heavy ATGM are better ( for me, of course )
a problem of ATGM units is low ammo. they needs ammo truck near after same shot...
the russian player can use smoke away to problem view for US ATGM units, the US ATGM units are enough capable to fire with smoke?
you suggest me patriots like SAM long range defence ?
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May 3rd, 2009, 01:36 PM
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Re: the best ways to use US Army against Russia
If the terrain does not suit helos dont use them, no cover no helos.
ATGMs will kill most times if hit of course T-90 has 2 anti missile defence shots which have a chance to stop them. I say again try smaller battle & learn putting ammo trucks by inf ATGM with a fast arty call time results in instant death.
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