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 What spell turns monsters into commanders?I saw a Tarrasque that was a commander.
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				March 6th, 2010, 08:47 PM
			
			
			
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				March 6th, 2010, 11:44 PM
			
			
			
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				March 7th, 2010, 03:11 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by BigDaddy  Are Tarrasques commanders in CBM? |  I wish they were. |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 6th, 2010, 11:50 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by ghoul31  What spell turns monsters into commanders?I saw a Tarrasque that was a commander.
 |  One of the coolest spells in the book.  I once use GoR (Gift of Reason) on a Behemoth just for fun.  I gave him some items but squandered him with poor scripting.
 
Tangent question..  Has anyone tried GoR on the 4 armed foul spawn?  Does he transform with 4 arm slots?  Too lazy to check Edi's DB tonight. 
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					Originally Posted by sansanjuan  Tangent question..  Has anyone tried GoR on the 4 armed foul spawn?  Does he transform with 4 arm slots?  Too lazy to check Edi's DB tonight.-ssj
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				March 7th, 2010, 12:58 AM
			
			
			
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 The ettin has 3 arms, not four.  You can give him 2 shields and an... axe of hate!  He should kill SCs fine like that. |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 7th, 2010, 01:42 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by BigDaddy  The ettin has 3 arms, not four.  You can give him 2 shields and an... axe of hate!  He should kill SCs fine like that. |  Besides the ettin w/3 arms, there is also a 4 armed crossbreed (unit 530.)  However, each arm ends in a claw, so it can't equip weapons/shields, and thus it's rather a poor choice for GoR consequently.  
 
There's also the Grotesque you can get, which has an arm, a stinger, and a claw, and fire breath, and comes with resistances (but is cold blooded, and unfortunately equipping it will take away the fire breath, since it's not bonus.) |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 7th, 2010, 02:44 AM
			
			
			
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 There are a couple of decent GoR units that you could be more useful if you could script them better, such as chimera, but really, the best GoR target seems to be the ettin, has full slots, I think, plus another arm... and decent stats besides. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Don't forget Tarts and wished units!     Also, there are a few national summons that aren't bad targets, like Davanas. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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