Help! Me!

President_Elect_Shang · #1 November 27th, 2001, 11:11 PM

Hi, I'm a professional fool so please don't try this at home. I have a few Q but first a little background. I have been into SE since 97 when I found a copy of SE2 on the net. I have been hooked on it since. I am also a big fan of <gasp> StarFire 3rd Ed. So here I go as I can't seem to get MM to help me out maybe somewhere here can.

1) Has anyone seen or heard of a StarFire Mod?
2) Does anyone know a link for a good B5 and Star Trek Mod (just the data file would be great)
3) Can Fighters be, ummm "made" to pay maintence and score damage as ships do?
4) Finally: WHAT THE HECK IS A DRONE? I have been toying around with them forever and a day yet I can not seem to get one to work?
HAAAAAA, Ok all done now thanks for any help anyone can get me.

Atrocities · #2 November 27th, 2001, 11:19 PM

Hello,

1) I have not heard of a Starfire Mod. Sorry.
2) Play By Web Rambies B5 site And my site for star trek, link below. Data files are included with all ship sets. There is a TREK mod that can be downloaded from the PBW site.
3) Yes I believe so. Look in the VehicalSize Text file.
4)Drones were going to be added to the final game, but MM opted to not include them. Drone discussion was a hot topic for a while, but as it stands, drones are nothing.

President_Elect_Shang · #3 November 27th, 2001, 11:59 PM

Well no SF Mod? That means that I am working on the only one. If anyone is intrested thatn I would like to here from them, suggestions, etc.

I have already checked the vehicletype file and this is not were its at. I have even tried given the ability of changing maint with no luck. It appears that 1,000 baseships will break the bank but 100,000 fighters to destroy those baseships won't cost you a penny. I know this example is a little overboard but heck, thats me in general!

I checked on those links for the mods but I could only find the race styles (which I already have). Now I want to get a hold of the "vehiclesize.txt" "Techarea.txt" and "Components.txt" files. I will do the rest to blend them into another project I am working on. I call it the "Ultimate Universe Mod". Ha that will be ready by next decade if I can't even finish this StarFire Mod. Thanks for any more help I can get from anyone out there.

dogscoff · #4 November 28th, 2001, 12:14 AM

1) Not that I know of. That doesn't mean much though=-)
2) Check out the sci fi crossover mod thread.
3) No I don't think they can, unless you re-mod them as small ships. But then they can go through warp points, and they're not fighters any more, and you have problems with fighter components being available to capital ships. Oh, and your 100,000 fighters (or even 10,000 fighters) would violate the game's "maximum units in space" limit. And it would be a nightmare even in strategic combat. Plus, you do have to pay to build them, and you'll need carriers to move them, and the bottom line is that fighters just aren't as powerful as the equivalent tonnage / cost in ships. What I'm saying is that they don't seem to unbalance the game at all.

4) Drones are yet to be implemented, MM didn't have time before the game's first release. I think they are high on the priority list though. It seems the patches so far are concentrating on bug fixes and minor (ie easy to implement) new features, but once those are out of the way I have a feeling drones will be at the top of the list.

President_Elect_Shang · #5 November 28th, 2001, 04:00 AM

OK, I see about the Drone now. I was under the inpression that MM was finishing the SE series and about to move on to something new.

The example of the fighters vs the ships was just that, an example. I didn't really pull it out of the hat though. In StarFire thier is a tech line in wich the engines allow for fantastic speed but you need to dock with a special "carrier" that uses a slower engine in order to make jumps through warp points. That is the problem that has me stumped. I also don't think that building fighters should just be "free" of maintence. Lets face it, in realty an F-14 or M-1 Abrams cost to build and UPKEEP. What I was driving at was the fact that you can bankrupt (drain your resources) by building a fleet, but not by building fighters/satellites/troops/weapon platforms. Ummm. As a Last note I would like to point out that the Settings.txt allows you to push up the number of units, this can also be done in the game setup screen. Were should realty (or a close approxamation to it) and fiction have its line drawn when we can move it around with no penelty?

Will · #6 November 28th, 2001, 04:51 AM

Well, for StarFire... Aaron has said that StarFire is his inspiration for the entire Space Empires series. So technically, I guess the game standard techs are a StarFire mod. I haven't played it before though, so I have no idea.

President_Elect_Shang · #7 January 8th, 2007, 12:48 AM

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On 11/27/01 @ 8:11PM CST President_Elect_Shang said:
1) Has anyone seen or heard of a StarFire Mod?
2) Does anyone know a link for a good B5 and Star Trek Mod (just the data file would be great)
3) Can Fighters be, ummm "made" to pay maintence and score damage as ships do?
4) Finally: WHAT THE HECK IS A DRONE? I have been toying around with them forever and a day yet I can not seem to get one to work?

1. No there isn't one although you and two others will try. You will also try again when a new version of this game; called SE5, hits the market.
2. Yes there are a few. Try a website called SpaceEmpries.net run by one of the members here named Fyron. In the downloads section you should find just what you want.
3. No and No; not the way you are thinking. When SE5 comes out that will be much closer.
4. Don't worry about them. They won't work the way you are thinking either.

Hope I could be of some help PES. Feel free to ask any more questions. And no, you are not crazy, you just don't have the experience yet. In time you will come to see that most new modders ask the same questions and usually feel silly slash crazy when asking. Relax, make yourself at home. Over the next 5 years you won't find another forum with a community as great as this one. Although watch out for Fyron, he may be nuts. And the one we call SJ. He has a way of looking at things that can shoot way over the mark. Not that he is wrong; he is usually right and always helpful. Be sure to pester CPT Kwok at least once a month for nothing at all. He likes that. And Atrocities is a really great guy, you can't bug him enough with questions or ideas.

Suicide Junkie · #8 January 8th, 2007, 01:20 AM

This thread was just over five years old, man.

I think your reply is a bit too late.

Spectarofdeath · #9 January 8th, 2007, 01:26 AM

Wow, not only did you do some major digging to haul this thing out of the grave, but you've proven you have multiple personalities. And you say Fyron is the one who may be nuts?

President_Elect_Shang · #10 January 8th, 2007, 02:03 AM

ROFLMAO!

Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it SoD?

Hay SJ that's not fair, this guy PES may still be waiting for an answer. Look at poor oli_chose123 . He's still waiting for anyone to throw him some help!

(I'm just waiting for At to put in his two cents now.

And maybe Fyron will grace me with his presence?)