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December 1st, 2013, 10:19 PM
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Poland OOB
Formation 278, Naval inf CO-M, consists of three naval infantry platoons, formations 280. Should be three formation 277s, naval inf pl-M.
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December 2nd, 2013, 12:20 AM
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Re: Poland OOB
FIXED. Thanks
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December 23rd, 2013, 12:42 PM
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Re: Poland OOB
Poland signed an agreement to buy Leopard 2A5 tanks from Germany, in November 2013. They are said to be ready for service, so we might expect them from mid-2014.
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March 11th, 2014, 05:13 AM
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Re: Poland OOB
By the end of 2014, 77 Leopards 2A5 are expected.
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March 11th, 2014, 10:26 AM
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Re: Poland OOB
You'll find that and the newer Leopard 2A4 they also bought addressed in my last inputs for 2013/2014 in the Patch page thread.
Regards,
Pat
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February 22nd, 2016, 03:39 AM
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Re: Poland OOB
Poland to upgrade Leo 2A4 to Leo 2PL:
http://www.defence24.com/312490,leop...n-battle-tanks
It's a long, good article going into details. In short: - Deliveries planned in 2017-2020: 2017 prototypes (2 tanks), 2018 18 tanks (6+12 by two factories), 2019-2020 the majority (all together to 128 tanks) and in 2021 the remaining last ones (14 tanks).
- Upgraded L44 cannon to support DM63A1 Sabot ammunition as well as programmable DM11 HE ammunition.
- 3 tons of armor increase for turret, none for hull. Turret ballistic protection level to be higher than 2A5 standard.
- New stabilizer, fire control, vision systems (2A7 levels)
- Safety system upgrades for the crew
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November 18th, 2016, 08:56 PM
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Re: Poland OOB
In this month (November 2016) to polish army were added new training/second class attack aircraft’s
Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master polish codename "Bielik"
Aircraft with polish markings on top of wings they were introduced in 2012 but were absent from 1944 (soviet WWII tradition) until 2012 when reintroduced on F-16 first time since 1939
official website (polish language)
http://www.m-346.com/
Movie with polish camo and insignias aircraft
http://www.m-346.com/dla-mediow/aktu...wloskim-niebie
That remind me that is possible to add in polish OOB COIN aircrafts formation.
In 1946-1959 were used Po-2 and polish license build CSS-13 especially in actions against post AK underground for attack with small bombs and liaison.
Then period 1957 to 1965 PZL TS-8 Bies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_TS-8_Bies
number of yak-11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-11
and yak-18 https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jak-18 used for pilots training only but in case of WWIII were consider as a last and worst reserve for light attacks
And after 1964 until now we have times of PZL TS-11 Iskra Poland was only Warsaw pact country which produced own jet trainer instead use chosen by USSR Czechoslovakian L-29 Albatros. They were also sold to Indian AF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_TS-11_Iskra
In SPMBT we have icons of Iskra in polish and indian painting already included in shp file and master icon list
In meantime were introduced new model PZL I-22 Iryda to replace Iskra's but has some faults+bad management of whole program 8 were completed and used 19 never fully finished on production line all retried in 1996
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_I-22_Iryda
for basic training but with some elements of fighting has some 4 hard points for armament max 250kg all so can be used in COIN combat mission is used since 1992 PZL-130 Orlik https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL-130_Orlik
So Iskra remain until now and will be replaced by this new Italian aircraft
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January 13th, 2021, 12:51 PM
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Re: Poland OOB
Just to mention, for like 3 years now Poland has its 5th main military component, which is Territorial Force (Wojska Obrony Terytorialnej). They resemble danish Hemsvaern.
I believe it is roughly the time to include them in the OOBs? Also it should be mentioned that they use - as standard rifle - the Radom MSBS Grot AR that is also in early stage of implementation in standard Polish Army. It closely resembles ACR Bushmaster and probably be quialified for starts roughly as CZ Bren.
So far there are variations of company structures, but they should operate in three platoons, three sections each, and with 12 men in each section, including PK/UKM machinegun. RPG-7s are also available, however I am not sure if in every section.
However, WOT has or will have its own logistical system and it is aquiring weapons as independent buyer, thus they do not receive army stocks.
For this reason, starting with late 2021 first Javelins should be avilable for WOT, just as should be Spikes.
What I recomment is adding those types of formations:
WOT Company (on foot)
WOT Company (Mot) - on standard medium trucks, 2-3 per platoon (WOT will not operate heavier gear)
WOT ATGM Platoon (it can accompany the company, too) - with 3 Javelin or Spike missiles
Typical armament should be: MSBS Grot AR, UKM-2000, GNPO launcher and RPG-7. Typical section size of 12 men, probably qualified as Reserve Infantry and/or Guards Infantry.
WOT is being motivated on historical and quasi political grounds, I recomment it to have -5 for EXP (weekend soldiers after all but trained by professionals) but +5 to morale given their very function.
Could it be done?
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January 13th, 2021, 08:12 PM
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Re: Poland OOB
I suppose we could but are they significantly different in organization from a standard rifle company or platoon?
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January 13th, 2021, 09:11 PM
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Re: Poland OOB
They do - bigger sections (12 so far compared to ~6 nominally, there is no Polish "rifle" section per se as no unit except WOT is footmobile), diffent support weapons, different main service rifle... well, National Guard gets own formations even though differences are little. Scandinavian territorial force is also added for a long time. WOT already has about 25 thousand troops with 54 thousand to be there by 2023.
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